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Does it make me a bad aimer for having Elite? big lol.
Aiming is like the easy part in CS2D, even though the corner-aiming can be like hard sometimes with some guns. The game is rather luck based.
What if there was two pro gamers? - Who were both in same skill level. Only one of them dies, is it possibly because of luck? I'd not say it was skill. Because both of them were in same skill level, that's kinda unexplainable. Timing is like the big part in CS2D, you gotta be at the right spot at the right time or your dead meat.
That's my theory, lawl.
Anyway, I guess I'm a bad aimer for chosing Elite. It's ok though, I kinda agree. The corner-aiming is better with Elite, somehow.
Did I said you were a bad aimer for choosing an Elite?
Exactly, I haven't. Looks like you have a hard time reading what I write.
Well, you wrote it
here.
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If your aim is bad the best handgun for you is:
1. Elite
2. Five-Seven
3. Glock "
Kinda insulting.
Isn't the Elite like the best weapon around? besides Deagle. I think it is.
Your totally missing the point..
I never said that if you use an Elite, you have bad aim.
I said, if you have bad aim, an Elite is a good option.
How is this insulting? I'm just trying to help new players out there, what's so bad about that?
There is no best weapon, every weapon has advantages and disatvantages. A newb with a Deagle would die easily against a good player with an Elite, the same goes the other way around. I use different handguns
I like the usp at the beginning of de_bridge, you can deal much damage with the usp
the 5-7 against sniper weapons
in a regular close combat i use the deagle, and if I know I have to fight against many enemies I use the Elite
I voted for the Deagle because I use it regulary.
The Glock is defintely a suckage weapon and the P228, hmm I have no idea. Player COMMUNITY BANNED Offline
Reaper has written
The Glock is defintely a suckage weapon and the P228, hmm I have no idea.
I don't find the Glock a sucky weapon, it's a decent gun.
It's the fastest gun after the Elite and it has 5 rounds more then an Elite, which makes it bullet-conserve friendly.
The P228 is a middle handgun, it doesn't got speed of an Elite or the damage of a Deagle, but it does cover both Deagle's weakness and Elite's weakness, which with Elite would be the damage, and Deagle the speed. I'd see it as a middle class weapon. People prefer to have a handgun that excells in 1 particular thing like a Deagle that has the best damage or the Elite which has the highest speed or they choose a weapon inbetween which is a bit strong and a bit fast like a USP or a Glock,
followed by the Five-Seven and the P228. No wonder P228's and Five-Sevens are rarely being used, they are like middle classes. Player has written
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The Glock is defintely a suckage weapon and the P228, hmm I have no idea.
I don't find the Glock a sucky weapon, it's a decent gun.
It's the fastest gun after the Elite and it has 5 rounds more then an Elite, which makes it bullet-conserve friendly.
The P228 is a middle handgun, it doesn't got speed of an Elite or the damage of a Deagle, but it does cover both Deagle's weakness and Elite's weakness, which with Elite would be the damage, and Deagle the speed. I'd see it as a middle class weapon. People prefer to have a handgun that excells in 1 particular thing like a Deagle that has the best damage or the Elite which has the highest speed or they choose a weapon inbetween which is a bit strong and a bit fast like a USP or a Glock,
followed by the Five-Seven and the P228. No wonder P228's and Five-Sevens are rarely being used, they are like middle classes.
Well of course if you look at it as a positive way
Glock is the cheapest gun of all
However there are definetly Pros and Cons
Next thing: Five Seven is alot faster then the Elite. And would NOT be considered as a Middle Gun.
Elite has a stornger dmg then the Five Seven
11 Dmg for elite w/o KH and with it is 7
Five Seven is 10 without KH and 6 or with it.
Also Glock has the same as the Elite basically...
P228 is actually stronger than the Glock as well. No one uses it because well you said it people prefer A strong and a Weak rather than a P228 with average
Negatively however
Basically if you want a rounded thing about it
Glock (Bad)
USP (Average)
Deagle (Good)
P228 (Bad)
Elite (Good {to the eyes of most others, at least... To me Bad})
Five Seven (Bad {I like it though because of the speed}) Player COMMUNITY BANNED Offline
@Redemption
Five-Seven is NOT faster then an Elite.
I got it from alot of sources and the Five-Seven is NOT faster then an Elite, especially not ''alot faster'' as you put it out. The Elite is the fastest handgun, that is a fact.
Five-Seven is the second fastest handgun.
I don't know how you thought the Five-Seven is faster then the Elite. (somewhere I pointed out that the Glock is the fastest gun after the Elite, it was a mistake).
The rest I agree with you, but you should really check your facts about the Five-Seven because it is NOT the fastest handgun, it's the SECOND fastest handgun. Player has written
@Redemption
Five-Seven is NOT faster then an Elite.
I got it from alot of sources and the Five-Seven is NOT faster then an Elite, especially not ''alot faster'' as you put it out. The Elite is the fastest handgun, that is a fact.
Five-Seven is the second fastest handgun.
I don't know how you thought the Five-Seven is faster then the Elite. (somewhere I pointed out that the Glock is the fastest gun after the Elite, it was a mistake).
The rest I agree with you, but you should really check your facts about the Five-Seven because it is NOT the fastest handgun, it's the SECOND fastest handgun.
LOLOLOLOL Are you kidding me? Ask Aj lee copy any pros and they I checked all of your work through the Beta 0.1.0.0 Source code, which I have after downloading it, plus I know the formula for calculating into dmg without KH and with. The Five Seven is indeed in fact faster.
Either you have a bugged game or some weird bug into your coding or you havent used the Five Seven enough
BTW. Hold down your mouse while you are shooting
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@Redemption
Five-Seven is NOT faster then an Elite.
I got it from alot of sources and the Five-Seven is NOT faster then an Elite, especially not ''alot faster'' as you put it out. The Elite is the fastest handgun, that is a fact.
Five-Seven is the second fastest handgun.
I don't know how you thought the Five-Seven is faster then the Elite. (somewhere I pointed out that the Glock is the fastest gun after the Elite, it was a mistake).
The rest I agree with you, but you should really check your facts about the Five-Seven because it is NOT the fastest handgun, it's the SECOND fastest handgun.
LOLOLOLOL Are you kidding me? Ask Aj lee copy any pros and they I checked all of your work through the Beta 0.1.0.0 Source code, which I have after downloading it, plus I know the formula for calculating into dmg without KH and with. The Five Seven is indeed in fact faster.
Either you have a bugged game or some weird bug into your coding or you havent used the Five Seven enough
BTW. Hold down your mouse while you are shooting
What sources?
Meche and lee/Aj have told me that the Elite is faster.
Don't believe me? Just take a look at the topic created by me asking for detailed informations on weapons.
I also use Dedi server and I've looked in it and it also says that the Elite is faster. And no I don't got a bug, I got a modded CS2D (downloaded lots of maps, skins, etc) and a CLEAN FRESH CS2D downloaded with nothing modified. Are you playing with me? If you keep on with your word that the Five-Seven is faster, then I won't discuss this anymore because it's ridicilous.
EDIT: Meche is one of the best players and surely on the top 10 players of CS2D and he uses an Elite, I've asked him why and he said
''cause its cool and the fastest pistol'' exactly like that,
I clearly remember. Lee Moderator Offline
actually the five-seven is 2.143 times faster than a deagle while the Elite is only 1.875 times faster. The Five-Seven's Rate of Fire is therefore around 1.1428 times faster than the elite. Yet the Elite does 1.125 times the damage done by the Five-Seven. Of course in any fire fight, unless you're playing extremely conservative, I would recommend using the Elite as your secondary since the Five-Seven takes even longer to reload than a conventional assault rifle, actually 20% longer to reload than an AWP
Also due to the lack of usage of the Five-Seven, it's common belief and wide acceptance that the Elite is the fastest pistol in the game since the only pistols commonly used are the Glock, USP, the Deagle and sometimes the Elite. Player COMMUNITY BANNED Offline
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actually the five-seven is 2.143 times faster than a deagle while the Elite is only 1.875 times faster. The Five-Seven's Rate of Fire is therefore around 1.1428 times faster than the elite. Yet the Elite does 1.125 times the damage done by the Five-Seven. Of course in any fire fight, unless you're playing extremely conservative, I would recommend using the Elite as your secondary since the Five-Seven takes even longer to reload than a conventional assault rifle, actually 20% longer to reload than an AWP
Also due to the lack of usage of the Five-Seven, it's common belief and wide acceptance that the Elite is the fastest pistol in the game since the only pistols commonly used are the Glock, USP, the Deagle and sometimes the Elite.
Quote from what you gave me:
Glock
Damage: 11
Rounds: 20
Cost: $400
Cooldown Speed: .60 seconds
Desert Eagle
Damage: 24
Rounds: 7
Cost: $650
Cooldown Speed: 1 second
USP
Damage: 14
Rounds: 12
Cost: $500
Cooldown Speed: .70 seconds
P228
Damage: 13
Rounds: 13
Cost: $600
Cooldown Speed: .65 Seconds
Elite
Damage: 11
Rounds: 15
Cost: $1000
Cooldown Speed: .55 Seconds
Five-Seven
Damage: 10
Rounds: 20
Cost: $750
Cooldown Speed: .58 Seconds
This clearly shows that the Elite is faster then the Five-Seven, and this is exactly the information that you've gave me. Now I'm confused, first you say the Elite is faster but now the Five-Seven is faster? In my opinion, my favorite handgun has got to be USP and close to first is Deagle. Lee Moderator Offline
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This clearly shows that the Elite is faster then the Five-Seven, and this is exactly the information that you've gave me. Now I'm confused, first you say the Elite is faster but now the Five-Seven is faster?
Actually the information you quoted was given by AJ and I'm fairly certain that it's the CS2DG Weapons Spec, note that conventionally, the Deagle should have a cool down time of between 1.10s to 1.17s which explains the higher RoF for the Gold Deagle.
Also, during most games the RoF (Rate of Fire) also depends on the ping of the player. While the pistols are pseudo semi-automatic, they lose their effectiveness after one reaches 500ms ping for the faster weapons to 1000ms for the Deagle on the first shot and will limit the RoF to the Ping of the Player for the subsequent shot by having a ping that is in the top 20% to 40% of the 500ms-1000ms pings. leegao has written
actually the five-seven is 2.143 times faster than a deagle while the Elite is only 1.875 times faster. The Five-Seven's Rate of Fire is therefore around 1.1428 times faster than the elite. Yet the Elite does 1.125 times the damage done by the Five-Seven. Of course in any fire fight, unless you're playing extremely conservative, I would recommend using the Elite as your secondary since the Five-Seven takes even longer to reload than a conventional assault rifle, actually 20% longer to reload than an AWP
Also due to the lack of usage of the Five-Seven, it's common belief and wide acceptance that the Elite is the fastest pistol in the game since the only pistols commonly used are the Glock, USP, the Deagle and sometimes the Elite.
Looks like Redemption always checks his work more than he other people Player COMMUNITY BANNED Offline
@leegao
So why doesn't Aj make an account himself?
Why do you let him on your account?
It only brings more confusion into the forum. in my opinion the deagle is the best handgun by far.
simply because the way you would play with a deagle. if you have a high rate of fire it means you have to expose yourself more often to hit your target, which is absolutely ok with a ak47 or m4a1, but if you have an elite or five-seven you have to expose yourself often too because of the rate of fire but the damage is not too high. while with a deagle to kill someone with kevlar you need 7 hits, which means you have to be exposed 7 times for just a fraction of a second. so if someone comes running with a gun like ak47 or mac10, you can shoot your first shot, take cover shoot your next shoot fall back, take cover etc, in the best case you kill your enemy without even taking any damage. while with high fire rate handguns it's harder to do this
and anyway, dealge is cool 
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@leegao
So why doesn't Aj make an account himself?
Why do you let him on your account?
It only brings more confusion into the forum.
He does have his own account he's just to lazy to log in.
If you look back to like page 17 or something he replied with a name of TGVAjsec5000 Lee Moderator Offline
eh did my best lol its hard trying to time them yourself.
my old account is lost to me due to an email that expired.
besides lee hasn't minded this for almost a year now lol
lee: meaning 2 and a half years? -.- edited 1×, last 08.07.08 08:19:13 pm
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OF COURSE ERVYONE IS FUCKING GONNA PICK THE DEAGLE.
POINTLESS TOPIC..
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Padro has written
OF COURSE ERVYONE IS FUCKING GONNA PICK THE DEAGLE.
POINTLESS TOPIC..
CLOSE!
Spamming in all the topics isn't going to get you anywhere but being banned. Stfu. Im speaking my mind. Admin/mod comment
I made your previous post a flame post because you are flaming as guest (at least its the same IP). don't post as guest when you have an account please. and stop flaming and spamming. /DC Player COMMUNITY BANNED Offline
Padro has written
Stfu. Im speaking my mind.
Nice English skills you've got there. 
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