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Leiche
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@user Pehlivan: So you think the site is trustworthy, but tell me that I shouldn't post anything since everything can be faked on the internet?
That's some great logic thinking right here.
I'm not a religious scholar but I have enough knowledge.
Nothing is exempt from criticism not even your religion.

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@user Pehlivan: Look up these verses for yourself, then. All the holy books of the abrahamic religions have some really nasty shit in them, but their followers always try to make excuses for them. "It was a different time, it's not like that anymore..." what exactly is and is not outdated? Who gets to decide what parts of these books become irrelevant? Can they even do that? Don't these books say their shit lasts forever? Apologists, man.

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Pfft, such a waste of time. I didn't only say about verses in my post. I told you about the muslims dying, but again as usual, no one except muslims gave a shit, just ignored it and argued about something else.

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@user SpriNG: I bet you twenny quid you have never read the Quran once in your entire life. But don't worry, most people don't care about their books. They just trust that everything in it is good and right because everyone around them says so, even though they haven't read it either. It's a wonderful clusterfuck of make-believe. Go ahead and read it completely. Your prophet was a tyrant and child molester. A couple of middle-eastern countries enforce Sharia laws, one of which state that people who leave Islam are considered traitors and will be killed. These are actual laws, in 2015. It's fucked up, dude.

Also, Muslims killing Muslims doesn't matter, they're still Muslims. Christians can kill other Christians, as long as they swallow Jesus' load, they're good Christians. Stop using the No True Scotsman fallacy, it doesn't work. The books back them up, not your opinions and feelings.

@user Kirito2K:
Thousands upon thousands of people die everyday, around the clock. Nobody but the people close to them cares because they are individuals. Every 30 seconds or so, some dude, somewhere, commits suicide. Where's the support for them?

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user Leiche and user Seekay: If you would care a moment to reinterpret what G-One and CV were saying, you might see that what they were trying to accomplish is to disassociate normal muslims from ISIS and other terrorists.

If you look at how belief systems (of any kind) come to exist within an individual, you would note that they are manifestations of the broader context they live in: they do not originate by said individual reading a single book. Thus they are highly variable and subject to mutation over time. Trying to force a complete and literal interpretation of the Quran on someone who is muslim is as misguided as trying to force the opinions of the Sophists on modern atheists.

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Every 30 seconds or so, some dude, somewhere, commits suicide. Where's the support for them?

Literally everywhere. I think I see suicide hotline advert-things on TV almost every week.

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@user Leiche:
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ISIS kills muslims too. ISIS is not muslims.


Islam forbidden killing muslims and innocents.

Following Quran doesn't mean shit if they kill muslims.
If muslim kills muslim; they are not muslims.

(Do I have to reply with the same message again?)

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I think there are 2 kinds of islam. The modern and the old-skool.

While the ol'muslims kill people and try to spread their interpretation of islam you modern guys try to make teh world a better place.
Therefore theses "terrorists" are still muslims.

Ontopic: terrible stuff happend. I'm oouttt.

Edit: In case you guys throw in the argument "bb.b.. but they kill other muslims so they are not real muslims"
you have to know that they do not accept you as true muslims since you're not believing in the "true islam". (Same for you)

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First of all, all who keeps complaining about lock this lock that, you can simply ignore this topic and dont waste your time posting here anything, bye.

Leiche, these who deny that, are people who dont know much but keeps saying ''no, its religion of peace'' without any proof. So tell me, if quran says so, why christians, jew etc. werent killed under Muhammads control or by any other muslims leaders.

Some of qurans verses are meant to that current time. ISIS doesnt follow Quran nor Sharia law. If you did some research, most of ISIS members havent even read quran, its all leaders who tell them all these laws and what quran says. So its more like brainwashed warriors.

Lets take example of Paris shooting / bombing. There was muslims killed aswell, so they randomly bombed people who may have been muslims or not muslims or simply good people who support muslims. If Quran says kill disbelievers, why did ISIS kill both? Because they dont follow nor Quran or Sharia law.

Its difficult to me explain all this, i dont have much time and i just write quickly and my english is not good

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Use similar avatar to support victims of terror attacks in France!



Because the victims fucking care that some kids in a forum are changing their shitty avatars... what the fuck.

Same with Facebook. Everytime something like this happens, people are changing their avatars.

This is just fucking retarded.

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Leiche
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Leiche, these who deny that, are people who dont know much but keeps saying ''no, its religion of peace'' without any proof. So tell me, if quran says so, why christians, jew etc. werent killed under Muhammads control or by any other muslims leaders.


And another one who either doesn't understand my posts, or just flatout ignores what i'm posting.
Here is the letter sent by Muhammad to christian monks granting them religious rights, while (mostly later) having to pay a tax for it.

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Some of qurans verses are meant to that current time. ISIS doesnt follow Quran nor Sharia law. If you did some research, most of ISIS members havent even read quran, its all leaders who tell them all these laws and what quran says. So its more like brainwashed warriors.


As I told you before, yes I know. Still the "ISIS doesn't follow the Quran or Sharia law." is a flatout lie.
They already installed Sharia law in occupied provinces of Iraq and Syria, where those who oppose it either get stoned, thrown off cliffs, burned in cages, or drowned in lakes.
Also they follow a LITERAL interpretation of the book so if there's "Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" these morons will do that.

user Black Wolf has written
Lets take example of Paris shooting / bombing. There was muslims killed aswell, so they randomly bombed people who may have been muslims or not muslims or simply good people who support muslims. If Quran says kill disbelievers, why did ISIS kill both? Because they dont follow nor Quran or Sharia law.

Two words:
Collateral Damage.

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Immigrants in? Stop bombing their countries and they wont need to leave their country. You made middle east battlefield.

Leiche, still, if isis follows quran, why r they breaking do much rules
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