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medeiros OP
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Ok, us community, I would like you guys, theists, non-theists and anti-theists, to give me your thoughts on this quote.

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I've been an atheist all my life and while I agree with this quote-it has some flaws. Most religions now days have moved beyond a supreme being in the sky and are now serve as a guidebook and a way of life.

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Why does everybody think that religion ALWAYS is just about a god. As user Corvallis5 said, religion mostly is about living a good life on earth. Most religions put a high value into helping each other, being nice to each other and stuff.
I still believe in a god. And I have no problem with him not preventing all evil. This world is not a perfect place, and I'm happy about that. Imperfection is awesome.
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Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Are you malevolent just because you don't help a friend clean up after a party? Are you malevolent because you don't give money to poor countries / people? Usually you are not, even if you COULD help. Being able, but not willing does not automatically make you malevolent.

Btw: to give you the "easy" answer - God is so omnipotent that he's beyond good and evil.

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I believe in a supreme entity but I do not believe in religion. Religion is a system devised by the weak / opressed to comfort themselves and it has done more harm than good throughout history.

You guys should look up Nietzsche's understanding of Christianity, it's a good lecture at best.

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@user Time:
@user medeiros:
@user ohaz:
There's a book I read a long time ago. I still think about it every day. It helps me understand life out here. The book talks about men - what motivates them. It's simple, really. "A living thing seeks above all to discharge its strength - life itself is will to power." Nietzsche, "Beyond Good and Evil". So long.

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Are you malevolent just because you don't help a friend clean up after a party? Are you malevolent because you don't give money to poor countries / people? Usually you are not, even if you COULD help. Being able, but not willing does not automatically make you malevolent.

But I'm not omniponent/perfect/love everyone/omnipresent.
If you are supposed to love everyone and are the kindest being in all the universe, shouldn't you help those who suffer?

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I can say I`m atheist, but be sure - true religion teach you how to respect others, nature, your opponents, how to live in good world with harmony. True fanatism - worst problem of all religions (muslims for 1st place). Also when religion mixed with politics, it borns an inquisition (isn`t it, pope?).

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Well I believe this life is just a test and it's not supposed to be easy nor fair, but if you actually asked Allah for help instead of waiting for him to help you, he will help you.
But ofc the less lucky you're in this life, the most lucky you're in the judgment day.

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I can't blame God for the malevolence that occurs on Earth, mainly because he's only an observer. He can't actively interfere, because who know how many times we'll start to complain like the babies we are.
Plus, we've got the free will to prevent all this from happening. But... who knows what goes on in our minds as this happens.
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