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27.10.10 05:52:14 pm

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.. Nice..?
Anyways, it would be nice to see the aliens land here and greet us at least for awhile. Then they leave.

However, I have read about how they plan on creating a hybrid.. of human/alien. Creepy.

Are you sure they not goint to atack us? Like in our world there is maybe too some assholes who kills unarmed forms of life for example small birds. I had some noob in my class and i still have him who killed small bird egs by going trought em with bicycle. He is an asshole.

Ok, lets get back to our topic. Aliens....well aliens how do you think they looks like. I think they are in human form.

But anyway. It is really 99% there is an aliens in space ok here is my theory.

I think the alines are in same forms as we do with same planet. But the god made it like that we cant go or see eachother becouse they can be in next 4th galaxy where is inpossible to go. We cant go with light speed cuz we would burn. It is something like server in game. You conect but you cant disconect without loosing your stuff in other worlds.

You canot go to other world without dieing.

Here is second theory.

As we know thbere is allready theory when you go to wormhole you will travel in time, so other civilization is our civilization but maybe 1000 years before.

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27.10.10 08:35:29 pm

And this other world wold need everything to support life aswell... Now is that possible? I think not.

Time travel will never be possible.

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27.10.10 08:40:36 pm

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And this other world wold need everything to support life aswell... Now is that possible? I think not.

Time travel will never be possible.

If it would be than we would hack gods powers or something like that. We would do possible what is unpossible.

But also. I read some books about time traveling and the point of it is just a speed. If you see other slow than others see you fast. Same is when you run, you run fast other run slow from your perspective. So in slow motion you seeyourself move fast and otehr slow that means other see you move fast. Yes i know it is circular logic but try undestand

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27.10.10 10:32:48 pm

Aliens would mean something that could be on another planet, according to this forum. If it's from another universe or galaxy you're talking about, then that's a whole different type of alien you're talking about.

We can always communicate with the aliens with a robot in a capsule far off in space. We don't have to burn ourselves just to go at light speeds.

And come to think of the people that kill others and innocent animals, the aliens observing us would probably be thinking "What on Pluto are those people doing..?" I chose Pluto as an example because I imagine aliens on Pluto as normal people who wear winter coats, fur hats, and have small chisels for hands

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27.10.10 11:40:41 pm

@Pupp3t
Pluto can't support life.
Agree with the capsule thing.
idk what you are talking about in the top sentence.

@Ultr4killer
You talk about this like it's a game.
Hacking God's power, that is impossible. "All things are possible with God", not against him.
Also(since you brought religion back into this) we could never be allowed to have time travel, then we could go back to creation and modify what has already happened, and bring guns and stuff back in time and ruin the world we live in.

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28.10.10 01:13:20 am

Time traveling into future may be possible, but back, not so much. 1 machine needs to calculate the whole universe and every smallest part of space to be able to change it back, which is impossible. If it was possible we would already see people from future (our future us would come).

Also, Worm hole doesn't throw you back in time, it as I think throws you in another reality (Its the place where realities collide) Or it just makes everything disappear in 1 smallest point of it as those two realities collide.

Btw Ultr4killer, Reality ain't some server you can hack,connect or disconnect from it.

Now here is something you guys will never answer correctly since it has no answer (not known, only small theories): OFF TOPIC

How did time start since it needs time to actually start (time is trigger, trigger needs its self to start.. so umm how did it start?) (its not connected to god though, god needs time to survive too, so how did it exist)?

Also, if it had time before time, then how did that time start.. hehe

Use your brains for that one.
-Camo

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28.10.10 03:22:20 pm

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mate it was just an imagination of hacking god power. We cant do something what is inpossible. I chose a game as example becouse WE are not sure if is it REALLY unpossible in LIFE

@Camo as i said it was just an example dont take it so serisoly.

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28.10.10 06:16:09 pm

@The Camo: God has no begining, it's hard for us, simple minded humans to comprehend.

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28.10.10 06:35:11 pm

we talking about something what CAN NOT be explained. We just have to wait until we die and than all our questions will get answered. That is why i wona have 2012 cuz i get answers in almosut 1 year but if not i have to wait another 80 years...

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28.10.10 08:33:35 pm

How will we have our questions(about aliens) answered?

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28.10.10 08:57:44 pm

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@The Camo: God has no begining, it's hard for us, simple minded humans to comprehend.

Everything needs start, god is everything, thats why I said don't use god as explanation.

@Ultr4killer
Nah, I didn't take it seriously, I was just like LOL!

@Indiana266
When they appear we will have everything about them answered.

Ether we will show as threat or as worthy allies, or simply as test subjects..

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28.10.10 11:41:59 pm

yet again this is a thread about aliens n UFOs STFU ABUT RELIGION DAMMIT.

In the words of the great n late George Carlin

KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYN SELF >>

If you believe in a invisible guy in the sky then thats your choice but dont push your beliefs upon me & others in a forum thread that has nothing to do with religion....at all

Talk about religion in your own religion thread >>

ON TOPIC

Here is a link to a good website on German wunderwaffen that also has some intriguing information on German UFO like aircraft projects.

The parent site is called Black Sun a neo nazi group so ignore them >> The materials they have accumulated however is factual & intriguing. Especially that parts on German UFO & atomic research programs before & during the war.

main page
http://www.greyfalcon.us/restored/AN%20INVENTORY%20OF%20NAZI%20SECRET%20WEAPONS.htm

Josef Andreas Epp Omega Diskus
(1939-1945)
http://greyfalcon.us/restored/JOSEF%20ANDREAS%20EPP.htm

Another page with info n an index on some German wunderwaffe projects including the Die Glocke (the bell project)
http://wunder.greyfalcon.us/

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29.10.10 12:52:35 am

@Ultr4killer: Yeah, I do know the Planet Nibiru, and the other things. But I didn't know the Yellowstone thingy yet... Sorry if I acted like a jerk here man, I wasn't myself when I posted my reply.

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29.10.10 02:50:48 am

And they said making a time warp bell was a ludicrous idea -.- lol jk. However, the Nazis did make a lot of strange weapons and had ideas. So it could have been possible. Hitler actually believed in aliens. I think.

The Illuminati conspiracy could involve aliens being as the infamous Men in Black, since they always appear when people pick up a piece of an UFO... coincidence?(no)

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29.10.10 06:09:00 am

the Illuminati are a dead secret society. They were scientists who were oppressed & hunted but the church back in the 16-18 century. Once the Vatican lost its ability to manipulate countries & kill "non believers" the illuminaties had no reason to continue their work in hiding. Tho many of them likely joined the free masons, builderburgs, & or the international banking elite. (yes they have their own little group even tho their not real secret >> they flaunt their power in the open yet no one seems to notice nor care surprisingly. 0.o)

As for the men in black AKA G. Men or Ghosts as they are called these days are government agents working under, with & or out side the CIA's influence.

Many have connected them with the :
NSA (National Security Agency)
FBI
CIA
members of the Robertson panel
the Canadian DRB ( Defense Research Board) under Dr. Omond Solandt (was connected to MJ-12 at one point)
Project Sign
Project Blue Book
The National Security Council
The US Air Force OSI (Office of Special Investigations)
AEC US Atomic Energy Commission
NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics)
USAF project NEPA (Nuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft)
Project Ozma
Los Alamos National Laboratory (the place were the 1st atomic bomb was built)
Dwight D. Eisenhower's NSC (National Security Council) 5412/2 Special Group

(created via Executive Order/Presidential Directive issued Dec. 28 1955 later renamed group # 303 National Security Action Memorandum No. 303 on June 2, 1964 with McGeorge Bundy as new chairmen. Succeeded by the 40 Committee from 1954 at the latest ro 1976 when 40 committee was then replaced by Operations Advisory Group on Feb. 18 1976 via Executive Order 11905 issued by Gerald Ford.)

A new one pops up to replace the older one every 1-2 presidency's as each president seemed to prefer their own hand picked officials. The latest one to my knowledge was in 2001-2004 time frame known as SPU or Special Intelligence Unit created by George W. Bush Junior.

But most of all the G-men have been tied with the supposed group known as Majestic 12 whose task was to study & cover up existence of UFOs by any means necessary. usually with disinformation & intimidation & forcing ppl to sign confidentiality contracts that void their civil rights. Some think the 12 stands for the 12 most prominent members from the original group AKA its founders who are reported to be as follows.

Rear Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter also the first CIA director

Dr. Vannevar Bush: chaired wartime Office of Scientific Research and Development and predecessor National Defense Research Committee; set up and chaired postwar Joint Research and Development Board (JRDB) and then the Research and Development Board (RDB); chaired NACA; President of Carnegie Institute, Washington D.C.

James Forrestal: Secretary of the Navy; first Secretary of Defense (replaced after his death on MJ-12 by Gen. Walter Bedell Smith, 2nd CIA director)

General Nathan Twining: headed Air Materiel Command at Wright-Patterson AFB; Air Force Chief of Staff (1953–1957); Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff (1957–1961)

General Hoyt Vandenberg: Directed Central Intelligence Group (1946–1947); Air Force Chief of Staff (1948–1953)

General Robert M. Montague: Guided missile expert; 1947 commander of Fort Bliss; headed nuclear Armed Forces Special Weapons Center, Sandia Base

Dr. Jerome Hunsaker: Aeronautical engineer, MIT; chaired NACA after Bush

Rear Admiral Sidney Souers: first director of Central Intelligence Group, first executive secretary of National Security Council (NSC)

Gordon Gray: Secretary of the Army; intelligence and national security expert; CIA psychological strategy board (1951–1953 ) ; Chairman of NSC 5412 Committee (1954–1958 ) ; National Security Adviser (1958–1961)

Dr. Donald Menzel: Astronomer, Harvard; cryptologist during war; security consultant to CIA and NSA

Dr. Detlev Bronk: Medical physicist; aviation physiologist; chair, National Academy of Sciences, National Research Council; president Johns Hopkins & Rockefeller University

Dr. Lloyd Berkner: Physicist; radio expert; executive secretary of Bush's JRDB

According to other sources and MJ-12 papers to emerge later, famous scientists like Robert Oppenheimer, Albert Einstein, Karl Compton, Edward Teller, John von Neumann, and Wernher von Braun were also allegedly involved with MJ-12 in its early years.

Sorry if I went a little over board with all this but what I wrote here is only a tiny fragment of all the information I have.

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29.10.10 09:17:43 am

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@Ultr4killer: Yeah, I do know the Planet Nibiru, and the other things. But I didn't know the Yellowstone thingy yet... Sorry if I acted like a jerk here man, I wasn't myself when I posted my reply.

Np mate. I made bunch of grammar and spell misstakes this is how it looks like when i dont think before i write xD!

np its ok

@Phenixtri

What? mj-12, agency? is this really or you play DEUS EX 1 and 2?

If is it reall than game story is supossed to be reall 2 i thought the mj-12 are only in game...

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29.10.10 10:07:52 am

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And this other world wold need everything to support life aswell... Now is that possible? I think not.

Time travel will never be possible.

In the future it may be possible.
Scientests are right now sending molecules back in time.
Watch more discovery channel

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29.10.10 11:30:16 am

No MJ-12 is a real controversy >> the MJ documents poped up around the early 80s & their authenticity is debated to this day. the game was inspired by the real thing >>

Yoy probable think that the CIAs project MK Ultra is also a movie script I presume? ..... Un educated wankas >>

The US government has been feeding lies to the public for the better part of a century now ppl >> Especially when it suits the needs of those in power...all you need is a good history book or two to see the truth.

The FBI claims that the MJ-12 documents are false but I wouldn't trust them as they have had a shady history when it comes to telling the truth since J Edger Hoover's times.

The FBI is like the CIA in that its been dealing in the cloak n dagger type of business for quite a while now so thus dont trust them as its their job to lie when it benefits the state.

As it stands IF the MK-12 documents are in fact authentic IE the information provided in them is true then at best the document is only a partial fragment as the rest has long since been destroyed or sealed away some were normal ppl cant get a hold of it.

Even if you used the freedom of information act the original papers will never see the light of day again for at least 50 years if were lucky.

If anything the current MJ-12 papers were probably leaked on purpose along with false information as part of a standard disinformation routine. Mix the truth with lies & ppl will have an almost impossible task of trying to figure it all out.

And they have done a dam good job of it as the possible explanations for UFOs is almost endless >> Everything from aliens, Nazi wunderwaffen projects, ppl from the future or some other dimension, to UFOs being some kind of man made aircraft or spy plane by usually Russia or the US.

This makes it very difficult to tell the bullshit & real facts apart.

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29.10.10 11:38:04 am

Off Topic - MJ - Michael Jackson.

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29.10.10 11:46:26 am

>> you are either an American or just immature arnt you >>

MJ-12 is short for majestic 12 or magic 12 as its the projects name on all the documents. Although the project has probably changed names every decade or so with the advent of newer members & reorganizations that would most likely have occurred.

Note that on all MJ-12 documents only MJ-12 is listed so thus majestic, magic & other names are made up IE pure speculation as to what MJ could have really meant.

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