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| Choose to be criminals | 44.83% (13) | |
| Are victims of faulty economic factors | 55.17% (16) |
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Should the world economy actually collapse or just further deteriorate resulting in an ever more tyrannical government then yes by definition I would become a criminal as I would use any means necessary to survive
& I am already prepared to do so should such a situation arise We can avoid such a situation if people could for once in this generation put aside their petty differences & remove the corrupted politicians & their State corporate owners out of power then yea we may improve not only the economy but the system in general >>
But that will never happen as the majority of society has been too dumbed down to understand that they are getting fucked by a system that threw them over board 108 years let alone give a shit about what going on in the world today >>
More on this and similar topics here
Human Society = an epic fail >>
http://www.unrealsoftware.de/forum_posts.php?post=209076&start=0
Anyways, it IS possible that society can actually overthrow the corrupted political figures, Phenixtri. Don't forget that there are a few amount of people in this country that actually think the same way about the system these days. But, like you said, we're slowly getting our minds corrupted by what the government puts up on the media to keep our easily-malleable brains occupied.
I can actually tell a lot of people in my school will Probably become criminals.. But idk, I'm probably just stereotyping.
From private contractors to do their dirty work to regular military units tho the question still remains how many soldiers would be willing to fire upon their fellow Americans. Not all of them are brain washed as some people like to think but keep in mind they make ordinary grunts chat "kill them all let god sort them out" in basic training >>
The Air Force alone would bomb the shit out of any large uprising such as that. It wouldn't be on their conscious as much since they really cant see the people being bombed up close so thus there wouldn't be as mush hesitation.
Keep in mind that at this point in time the only real chance the American people have of restoring their nation to a true & proper democracy/republic is through a full scale organized nation wide revolution/civil war.
Its sad to say but I see no other effective alternative other than violence. Its just that far gone people >>
This thread == Criminals and their thought process
I will give it in a statistical form:
Ecomomic climate 60% Choose to be criminals ( Gansters? ) 35% Completely insane 5%There, a simple sum-up of what I believe to be the reasons for criminals exsisting.
It's pretty messed up that most drug cartels are/were actually ex-American Commanders in this part of the United States where I live. Drugs can corrupt anyone's mind, even theirs. Politicians probably do that stuff in secret -.-
Also on another note I chose criminals but only under specific circumstances that I underlined in an earlier post. The way I see it if it all goes to hell n back I am ready willing & prepared to do what ever is necessary to survive thus by definition my actions would make me a criminal.
Well, criminals as we know them, are not very easy-to-understand fellows. They all have different reasons, and as you said, if you ( or I ) had to steal or murder ( not so much murder, but what the hay ) to surviv, we probably would do it. All living things have a natural instinct to survive, I mean, why else does the buck run when the lion chases it? I'm sure that if the buck had a rifle and knew how to use it properly, he would probably turn right 'round and headshot ol' Simba!
It all depends on circumstances and whether you are all together up there.
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Plus, the whole government is a criminal! They make us pay for our education, and yet they let immigrants,who will give NOTHING foe the country,go off to college for free! That sucks, because everyone in the US must pay taxes or stuff, or just leave.
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Plus, the whole government is a criminal! They make us pay for our education, and yet they let immigrants,who will give NOTHING foe the country,go off to college for free!
Yeah, teachers should work for free and die poor, that's why they are teachers, right?
In that case you could blame the illegal inmigrants who don't pay shit and live in shitholes because they haven't got anything better and moved to the USA hoping they'll get a better life.
For starters they (the cooperate backed lobbyists want the educational system under funded & ill equipped or even un accessible to us since we live here in the US)
They want to keep you dumb. Just smart enough to do the paper work & run the machines but not smart enough to be capable of self thought or critical thinking.
They dont want people who can sit around the kitchen table & realize how badly they are getting fucked >>
By letting immigrants get free schooling for more or less nothing is a tactic to keep us (the people) fighting amongst ourselves. That way its much more difficult for us to unite as a whole & realize the true problems inherent in this system.
As for the taxes well half of them you do NOT have to pay.
Many of these "taxes" are un apportioned & also illegal as they were put in place by the private Federal Reserve (central bank) & not by the US government.
For example take the bullshit income tax.
This tax was never approved by congress nor are you required to pay it. There literally is NO LAW IN EXISTENCE that requires you to pay it.
Also all the money from the income taxes do not get recirculated within the system. it goes straight into the pockets of major banking cartels like those owned by J.P. Morgan & the Rothschilds for example.
Annually the income tax more or less robs the average working person of more than 35% of their total annual income every year !!!
To fully understand the problem (here in the US but the same concept can be applied in any country) one must open up some history books to see the truth.
Its not like the truth is hidden away like its some conspiracy people. >>
For example its known fact that family owned baking cartels like the Rothschild family, Warburg family, Rockefeller family, & Morgan family """bought control & influence & partial control" of the US government in 1913 when cooperate sponsored Woodrow Wilson (president at that time) signed the ""Federal Reserve Act".
This helped them create a central bank & control the US economy. & they finally took full control in 1971 when president Nixon disbanded the gold standard system.
they replaced the gold standard with a system called fiat money or "fake" money.
The US dollar today is nothing more than a fancy piece of backed by no real significant value.
In the gold standard you could trade a paper dollar for a gold coin of equal value while in the current fiat system the value of money is controlled by how much money is in circulation (in use).
Now keep in mind that a private central bank controls the value of US money without any sort of regulation by anyone. Take a minute or two to realize the insane amount of power this give to a small select group of rich elitists.
Power is money , money is power.
Also a big reason why they have so much power is that the central bank loans ALL the money it give to the US government at insanely high interest rates. And since the Federal Reserve is the ONLY supplier of money for the US its means that they instantly put the US government in debt.
After all the money is loaned out so thus it has to be payed back WITH INTEREST.
This means that these elitists are using debt as a neo form of slavery & use it to more or less own the whole country & the people within it. It is completely impossible to pay off the debt & it only grows larger every day.
End result of this lecture is that
DEBT = SLAVERY
& last I checked we are in more than 900 billion of dollars in debt & that # is growing ... fast.
And about that debt... Yeah, we are screwed if we do not pay back that money.
They want content obedient workers & nothing more.
Btw, I didn't know that there was no law to say you have to pay income text in USA, if you don't pay the tax here you just get a letter asking you to pay it ASAP, and if you don't they send thugs ( *cough*police*cough* ) after you to make sure you pay. After about 2 months they forget about and then the cycle repeats itself. Government is full of morons, which we are obviously going to have to get used to.
the corporate pricks who run your country indirectly live mostly here in the USA & in the EU. They bought & corrupted you nations government like they did in the USA. Here is a little summery of how they take control over a nation like South Africa for example.
Step one: send economic hit men to any 3rd or 2nd world nation.
these guys are so called representatives of major corporations like Halliburton Construction for example. they offer massive loans to the governments of these nations under the guise of the IMF or World bank for quote "economic development"
The only problem is that the loans are at massive interest & they have to be paid back after a certain time. Since the target nation usually is in economic trouble from the start this means that they cant pay the loans back.
When the hit men return they say well you cant pay off the loans with money so sell off your state owned industries to our private company's.
This way they wind up in control of a nations major industries such as transportation, power suppliers, water works, exc.
Now step 2 only comes into play when the leaders of the target nations refuse to be corrupted.
This is when they send in the Jackles as they have been called. These are usually CIA or Private Contractor sposered assassins/sabatures.
These guys dont really have to assassinate the said countries leader but instead they undermine them politically.
For example to make a president of a country look bad just get a couple thousand ppl to say riot or stage a demonstration against the president. Local & international TV will quickly pick this up & once its on TV it will look like the whole nation is rioting.
The other people in the said country will see this & like good conformists go along with it IE politically targeting that nations president demanding that he resign (quit).
After hes out of the way new corporate sponsors will provide the nation in semi revolution with new candidates spouting whatever ideals the people want to hear. This way regardless of whoever takes power the corporations still retain control.
Now if that dosent work the Jackles will they assassinate the leader via a black operation. Just look closely at South American countries histories closely for all the proof you could ask for >>
Now step 3 is a last resort step. Its only for when the Jackles fail to remove or eliminate the leader or leaders preventing them from taking control.
This is when they send in the military which most of the time usually is the US military >>
Iraq is a wonderful example of all 3 steps. Dont get me wrong im not defending Saddam or his regime but he had in the past worked with the CIA. He knew how they ticked so thus his security was perfect. They couldn't kill him so in 1991 we saw Operation Desert Storm AKA the invasion of Iraq.
Note that they didn't kill him then since they like his tenacity & his ability to use violence to keep his people in check. However since he didn't play well with others they had to finish the job with the second invasion >>
So called operation Iraqi Freedom >> more like Operation Occupation >>
& PS we know this as fact for one of these economic hit men has come forward & confessed to everything.
His name is John Perkins the former Chief economist for Chas. T. Main Inc.
Read his book Confessions of a Economic Hitman as it goes it much much more detail about how this system works.
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