English Simonas banning Shada

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06.05.16 06:58:28 am
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SQ
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Okay, first thing people should know that I'm not a player, but developer and when a player kills 4 other players with scanning while I was observing him in spectator mode. It wasn't skill at all - luck perhaps then. I did banned him after observing how he plays with other people, because it the whole server complaining about it later on.

I don't develop hacks, but I do have zoom-out function for the screen myself. That functions is basically to detect who is using these kind of hacks. I've shared screens of that with anal bagels community while developing. Also mostly I can say more than other people who are indeed hacking or not - I really won't trust anyone who will say it's a skill. I don't have time to check who is who before banning.

There was wrong statement in this thread, I've already seen numerous people hacking hours before this occurred.

Other thing is that he should consider the way he was talking. As if he perhaps is a skilled player, he should have more respect to other players.
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06.05.16 07:11:45 am
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Mami Tomoe
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What does the term scan mean in this topic?

Blazing is a nice player I don't think he will free-ban because of... huh.. rage...
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06.05.16 07:14:18 am
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That dude was just shooting out of the screen. Or in my opinion was behaving pretty weird when I was observing him in a spectator mode. I did my conclusion, banned him. CS2D is not a thing I could rage about.

Un-banned that guy now. Just when it comes to these kind of decisions, I do not hesitate to ban.
06.05.16 07:33:56 am
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Mami Tomoe
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Ah I now remember playing with Shada, yes it did seem like hacking since Shada hit me without knowing where I am (no matter where I was hiding Shada always found me without getting in my screen)

Ban is deserved.
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06.05.16 07:47:58 am
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I wish you guys would play mix, so bad. You guys really need to see how good someone can be at cs2d.
06.05.16 09:45:34 am
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G3tWr3ck3d
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@user Untitled: who the fuck cares about a no lifer? Blazin plox, ban those h@ckz0rz. Ty
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06.05.16 09:54:54 am
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@user Untitled: For you its a competitive game, for others just a fun relax game.
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06.05.16 10:04:59 am
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omg @user KDMRL: I didn't read
06.05.16 10:48:15 am
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user Rainoth has written:
denying accusations that way (and I'm repeating this yet again) only makes suspicion higher and actually justifies the actions that were taken.

To be honest, this is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. It's a normal thing to say that someone is a noob or he sucks when you're better than him. There's two possibilities to answer to a hackusation. Either "yes I am hacking" in which case he might be then (some people literally say yes just to troll someone) or "No I am not hacking at all" to point out that he isn't. In addition to say that someone is a noob is confirming nothing at all. This might be what hackers say, but they do that because they want to feel like pro players. It's the cheaters that use phrases like these and now everybody goes crazy with hackusating other people just because they are mad about being called noobs. In the end, calling someone a noob is just another way to say that you're sucking in the game as you look like you're a newbie playing this game the first day. This means that it's just an opinion, not a statement that someone is using additional software to get an advantage.

I do know what I am talking about as I have to deal with shit like this everyday in All Points Bulletin as a Gold Ranked Player. There's a not so small percentage of hackers and hackusations are a normal thing there. When people accuse me of hacks they usually do that just because they're mad. That's it.
06.05.16 11:52:50 am
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Rainoth
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So much to reply to, I don't have time to do this T-T. user SQ already explained why he did what he did so I'll slide with it.

Just want to reply to user Chingy. You're saying that seeing someone hacking and accusing of him, only to get a reply of "you are noob" doesn't raise your suspicion? Are you kidding me? How many times did you play this game? As I've mentioned before, I've seen about 30 of same layout - person is hacking, gets called out, says "you are noob/hahaha/lol/no you are hacking/*vote kicks*" and he is indeed hacking (quite obviously if you spectate him). If you play(ed) this game, you should have seen these cases.

You just wrote "This might be what hackers say" which I assume means that your brain processes that sentence as "something a hacker would say" which means what? It means that hackers tend to use this phrasing more thus it leads to suspicions being higher. It's not a total proof that a person is doing it but it sure doesn't help the person who gets accused.
I'm aware that everyone "wants to feel like a pro" saying it but it's still completely 0 denial to the "you're hacking" statement.
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06.05.16 12:16:26 pm
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That is not the first time this happens, @user el txc: got banned also in FWLS servers for being good, same as me i got banned tons of times in server cause they tihnk we cheat, that is nothing new, you admins shall play more instead of freeban competitive pro players, and of course i know shada from long long time ago, i met him in clans like Black and im pretty sure he is clean and never ever cheated before, thats idiotic.
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06.05.16 01:01:03 pm
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Geneor
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Hello , and here @user SQ: deductible you are at it if the complaint is served cried then so be it. A big crybaby , but I agree that you can't do people play 3 to 4 years and then he banned you're welcome I can't understand-_- what is happening with you guys if neumeet to play! play on the ZM server , or Team DeathMatch for practice.
06.05.16 01:03:49 pm
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@user 1uP: We're talking about a usgn account banned for 'hacking'... not server ban..

And I thought cs2dkc was the best clans..
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06.05.16 01:04:47 pm
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Mami Tomoe
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I can't understand-_-

Was the only thing I understood (oh the irony...)

I believe that even the best CS2D player wont be able to follow you while you move out of his screen (without missing one bullet)

These were clear hacks and I played with him/her for at least 5 rounds before leaving (Rage quit )

Even when he was shooting to someone else and I was coming behind him while sneaking (SHIFT) he found me exactly when he could've hit me...
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06.05.16 01:06:59 pm
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I don't get why everyone is still shitting around here. This was handled perfectly, someone got banned, a thread was made, that person got unbanned and we all lived happily ever after.

There is no full proof way to know if he was hacking or not without standing behind him while he is playing. So there is no need for debate about when to know if someone is hacking, especially not when it comes down to what they say.

But hey, be my guest into wasting time √
06.05.16 01:09:38 pm
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Mami Tomoe
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@user Yates: Well I and maybe some other people want him to get a ban back but the people on Shada's side don't.
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06.05.16 01:13:32 pm
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user Rainoth has written:
So much to reply to, I don't have time to do this T-T.


Oh the irony...
Btw I'm still waiting for your "logical answers" about the competitive gameplay, no one of them have sense and again came from a casual player who doesn't know how to play the game. Please don't make observations how I type my comments, is just wrong.
This community is pure cancer starting from this posts:

@user G3tWr3ck3d: who the fuck cares about a no lifer? Blazin plox, ban those h@ckz0rz. Ty

or

@user Ahmad: most pro scene whores are obnoxious and semi-retarded..

cs2d should be a real clone about what is the cs: competitive matchs, no one is getting money from this so why some people insist with the argument "competitive is not fun" ?


There's my 2 cents, kk thx bb.
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06.05.16 02:11:53 pm
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G3tWr3ck3d
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@user slimK: Y u mad? Y u go cray cray no one cares about you playing cs2d I've banned around 8 speeders on my servers and yet no one gives a fuck, at last blazing is doing a great job around here besides he gave unban to the h@ckz0r so be happy about it and use more hacking tools you lil h@ckz0r. Y u go one shot 5 people and then you go complain about ban, plox. Ty
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06.05.16 03:22:07 pm
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I fully concur with user Yates on every sentence. This guy is now unbanned yet you guys still whining and such till turning on a madness place.

Sometimes, I don't understand the people's reactions here especially when I read "Simonas died due to a scan, got mad banned that guy" and so forth. By the way what Shada said towards Simonas that "you're noob" is just immature and I will not tolerate that. Sure, there are competitive and skilled players yet there's no reason to behave like a dick (like Shada did) to someone especially when he realized that he did ban by a mistake and is serving his free time for CS2D development releases. I'd rather avoid such people and I categorize these into my dichotomy.

Nevermind, since the problem is solved, we all can say safely that it is time to close.
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