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Lol.. oxy, if you can read you can see this was taken down because of illegal shit.

I just love how you're always vehemently against me, even when you don't know. These are all lies and connotations. American officials have closed down Megaupload, accusing its owners of breaking copyright laws, even more - that's not about files or movies, I got to mention. I could place the same fucking image over my web-site.

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I just love how you're always vehemently against me, even when you don't know.

Firstly, I am never against anyone. Secondly, look at your own words:
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These are all lies and connotations.

Connotations are feelings brought up through certain words, phrases, etc... nothing really related to lies, right?

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American officials have closed down Megaupload, accusing its owners of breaking copyright laws

breaking [..] laws. Yep, sorta falls under what I said, and also it was not JUST copyright infringement.
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I could place the same fucking image over my web-site.

Would that not be illegal? Abusing federal property, or some other shit?

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trolling doesnt mean writing nonsense. think about it, seekay.


I never trolled in this thread. And I never said something about it..

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SOPA- Some Overpowered Political Assholes.


Better than "APOS".

Should we "Stop (the) Overpowered Political assholes)

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Anti-SOPA'ers :

OMFGWTF FUCK US GOVERNMENT FUCK SOPA NO FREEDOM FUCK SHIT BITCH DONT PUT DOWN JOOTUBE FUCKSHIT

Pro-SOPA'ers :

Okay, Sure, Reduces illegal crap, The bill sounds good enough, as long as the entire country isn't retarded enough to get youtube put down

Conclusion : Anti-SOPA Protestors are complete retards, Retards that can't read the fucking bill first

Seriously : The bill said : the US government might put down illegal sites like thepiratebay, or rather : Sites with Illegal Content might be put down, where, in the goddamn bill, does it say "It will put down every site that even has a single link to illegal items", seriously, read the bill, and tell me, And that was a serious challenge, well, assuming you are even intelligent enough to read a Official Document

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USA and their organisation suck ass and that's the bottom line. Thinking they own the world...

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Time
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SOPA


"bitch fucking bitchinger mother bitching piece of bitch"
                                                       -- Erik the 963rd

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SOPA


"bitch fucking bitchinger mother bitching piece of bitch"
                                                       -- Erik the 963rd

The only thing he ever said that actually made sense.

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ye?

Seekay, you have it right with the word "troll" ^^...

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Anti-SOPA'ers :

OMFGWTF FUCK US GOVERNMENT FUCK SOPA NO FREEDOM FUCK SHIT BITCH DONT PUT DOWN JOOTUBE FUCKSHIT

Pro-SOPA'ers :

Okay, Sure, Reduces illegal crap, The bill sounds good enough, as long as the entire country isn't retarded enough to get youtube put down

Conclusion : Anti-SOPA Protestors are complete retards, Retards that can't read the fucking bill first

Seriously : The bill said : the US government might put down illegal sites like thepiratebay, or rather : Sites with Illegal Content might be put down, where, in the goddamn bill, does it say "It will put down every site that even has a single link to illegal items", seriously, read the bill, and tell me, And that was a serious challenge, well, assuming you are even intelligent enough to read a Official Document


Sec 102: foreign infringing sites (where the US ought not have any jurisdiction over)

the owner or operator of such Internet site is committing or facilitating the commission of criminal violations punishable under section 2318, 2319, 2319A, 2319B, or 2320, or chapter 90, of title 18, United States Code; and

§ 2318. Trafficking in counterfeit labels, illicit labels, or counterfeit documentation or packaging
§ 2319. Criminal infringement of a copyright
§ 2319A. Unauthorized fixation of and trafficking in sound recordings and music videos of live musical performances
§ 2319B. Unauthorized recording of Motion pictures in a Motion picture exhibition facility
§ 2320. Trafficking in counterfeit goods or services

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/usc_sup_01_18_10_I_20_90.html


Without due process:
(5) RELIEF- On application of the Attorney General following the commencement of an action under this section, the court may issue a temporary restraining order, a preliminary injunction, or an injunction, in accordance with rule 65 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, against a registrant of a domain name used by the foreign infringing site or an owner or operator of the foreign infringing site or, in an action brought in rem under paragraph (2), against the foreign infringing site or a portion of such site, or the domain name used by such site, to cease and desist from undertaking any further activity as a foreign infringing site.

After due process:
(refered to in caveat section)
A(i) IN GENERAL- A service provider shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures designed to prevent access by its subscribers located within the United States to the foreign infringing site (or portion thereof) that is subject to the order, including measures designed to prevent the domain name of the foreign infringing site (or portion thereof) from resolving to that domain name's Internet Protocol address. Such actions shall be taken as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after being served with a copy of the order, or within such time as the court may order.

(B) INTERNET SEARCH ENGINES- A provider of an Internet search engine shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures, as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after being served with a copy of the order, or within such time as the court may order, designed to prevent the foreign infringing site that is subject to the order, or a portion of such site specified in the order, from being served as a direct hypertext link.

(i) PREVENTING AFFILIATION- A payment network provider shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures, as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after being served with a copy of the order, or within such time as the court may order, designed to prevent, prohibit, or suspend its service from completing payment transactions involving customers located within the United States or subject to the jurisdiction of the United States and the payment account.

(i) REQUIRED ACTIONS- An Internet advertising service that contracts to provide advertising to or for the foreign infringing site, or portion thereof, that is subject to the order, or that knowingly serves advertising to or for such site or such portion thereof, shall take technically feasible and reasonable measures, as expeditiously as possible, but in any case within 5 days after being served with a copy of the order, or within such time as the court may order, designed to--
(I) prevent its service from providing advertisements to or relating to the foreign infringing site that is subject to the order or a portion of such site specified in the order;
(II) cease making available advertisements for the foreign infringing site or such portion thereof, or paid or sponsored search results, links, or other placements that provide access to such foreign infringing site or such portion thereof; and
(III) cease providing or receiving any compensation for advertising or related services to, from, or in connection with such foreign infringing site or such portion thereof.


Caveats for enforcement:
Without due process, the Attorney General is able, at his own discretion, to bring an action for injunctive relief:
(ii) against any entity that knowingly and willfully provides or offers to provide a product or service designed or marketed for the circumvention or bypassing of measures described in paragraph (2) and taken in response to a court order issued pursuant to this subsection, to enjoin such entity from interfering with the order by continuing to provide or offer to provide such product or service.

(C) DEFENSE- A defendant in an action under subparagraph (A)(i) may establish an affirmative defense by showing that the defendant does not have the technical means to comply with this subsection without incurring an unreasonable economic burden, or that the order is not authorized by this subsection. Such showing shall not be presumed to be a complete defense but shall serve as a defense only for those measures for which a technical limitation on compliance is demonstrated or for such portions of the order as are demonstrated to be unauthorized by this subsection.

Sec 103: Domestic sites (a later section also adds in streaming services)

referenced laws:
title 17, sec 501
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00000501----000-.html

17 s 1201
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_00001201----000-.html

18 s 2320 (quoted above)
Lanham Act: 34(D)

Also see S201, which broadens previous measures by expanding the power of the attorney on prosecution of violators of 18 S 23xx.

Same set of injunctive relief upon construction as the foreign infringement cases.

Yes, the bill doesn't say that the US government will pursue every site with possible infringement of copyright laws, but it does certainly give them the potential to do whatever the hell they want, especially when the interpretive spectrum for what these violations may be is so broad. Let's put this problem in perspective:

I have a really large number on the order of magnitude of 2^(8*n) for some very large n (usually on the order of 10^4) and I decide to put it on some machine that will respond with some form of reversible transform of this number when it encounters some other signal. Now the court is telling me that due to the fact that my number contains a discrete pattern that when isolated and sent to some public machine, will return a small number that this guy in a suit puffing on some fancy cigar believes that he exclusively owns the right to, not only will that small discrete pattern be no longer accessible to the greater public, but the entire machine will no longer be accessible... well that's just all kinds of fucked up in my opinion.

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@user Yamaxanadu: The bill say the US gov can shut down any site WITHOUT a trial. It means, that if a site criticizes some asshole senator, that senator can shut it down and say that there was illegal content there.

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@user Yamaxanadu: The bill say the US gov can shut down any site WITHOUT a trial. It means, that if a site criticizes some asshole senator, that senator can shut it down and say that there was illegal content there.

Basically, this is the kind of stuff a Totalitarian Government would do.

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@user Yamaxanadu: The bill say the US gov can shut down any site WITHOUT a trial. It means, that if a site criticizes some asshole senator, that senator can shut it down and say that there was illegal content there.

Then that senator is a SOPA (Some Overpowered Political Asshole).

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Take out SOPA? Sorry, I'm not American and I don't have any American friends >___>
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