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You don't like CS2D Max (0.1.0.5 and newer) and/or you want the old CS2D (0.1.0.4 or older) back? Then please read this thread (or just play 0.1.0.4 and shut up if you don't have good and intelligent critique).

PLEASE DO NOT CREATE A THREAD OR POST ABOUT IT! I (UNREAL SOFTWARE) WILL INSTANTLY DELETE IT WITHOUT READING OR COMMENTING IT!

It's your opinion and Unreal Software tolerates this opinion (I tolerate it, but I don't want to read it. It has been posted too many times already). However Unreal Software will not support 0.1.0.4 (or older versions) in future. there will be no updates for those old versions. Unreal Software concentrates on making CS2D max better! There are several reasons why Unreal Software does it this way:

× 0104 is a paradise for cheaters
× 0104 lacks important features
× 0104 is outdated
× 0104 sourcecode is poor
× 0104 will not be updated because this would be waste of time (because of the poor sourcecode. it would be like building a palace on a melting iceberg)

√ Max has more features
√ Max is more secure
√ Max is just better overall
√ Max has official dedicated servers
√ Max has U.S.G.N. accounts and a better serverlist
√ Max has great sourcecode
√ Max will be updated in future
√ It took years to develop CS2D Max. This work is/was not futile!

So please unterstand that Unreal Software is not going to support old CS2D versions in future!

× Wishing back the old cs2d is the wrong way of thinking!

√ We all should concentrate on improving CS2D Max! This is exactly what Unreal Software does!

Improving a more secure game based on good source (which is max) is MUCH easier and better than fixing an old insecure game which is based on crappy sourcecode (which are old cs2d versions).

Every experienced software developer will confirm this! If you don't share this opinion you don't have an idea what you are talking about and your thinking must be considered to be irrational.

√ help cs2d to advance, say yes to max!
× say no to regression, say no to the old cs2d!

gameplay can be easily changed and improved but it is stupid to work on a game which is based on an insecure and crappy system when you already have another version of this game which is based on a much better and much more secure system!

please be rational! think ahead - not back!

Don't just say that you want 0.1.0.4 back! this doesn't help. make intelligent suggestions how max should be changed in your opinion. there is a thread for it. the new cs2d can be improved. sticking to the old cs2d is not a solution. the goal has to be to make cs2dmax as good as possible for everyone.

Don't just say "max sucks"! It doesn't help! it is idiotic flame and will be deleted!


This should clear things up about 0.1.0.4

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Just implement lag compensation to the source code of cs2d max (with the option to turn it on and off) and everyone should be happy

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Then the main reason you are stating that 0104 is better than cs2d max is about ping..


That's in-correct. Few reasons why i like old CS:2D better:
• Ping
• Diagnol Bug
• Grenade Bug
• Weapon Damage (All the weapons had equal damage)
• etc..

Everything was perfect, all it needed was autoteambalance.

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lol@weapon damage

mac10 was way overpowered. you may like it that way, but still, it is overpowered.

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Well on another note & this may be off topic but can some one tell me which version of CS2D was that last version to have an open source code?

Im seriously considering making some of my mods as indie games & I don't want to start from scratch.

So thus I intend to pick use the last version of CS2D with an open source code & work my way from there. & again sry if this is off topic but I did not want to create a new thread for a simple question

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• Diagnol Bug
• Grenade Bug
Yeah, that's the way those self-proclaimed "pros" talk. The old versions where better because of BUGS? It's like saying "nazi germany was better than the new germany because of the KZs". It's complete bullshit and the worst argument you could use. I think you just say that the old version is better because you are not WINNING in the new version because you can't use bugs to win. You are one of those guys who just wins because he can use bugs others don't know about - so you think you're a pro. That's bullshit. A good gamer can win even without using bugs, a good gamer wins because he is SKILLED. Seems like you are not, that's sad, but I can't change it.

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Yeah, that's the way those self-proclaimed "pros" talk. The old versions where better because of BUGS? It's like saying "nazi germany was better than the new germany because of the KZs". It's complete bullshit and the worst argument you could use. I think you just say that the old version is better because you are not WINNING in the new version because you can't use bugs to win. You are one of those guys who just wins because he can use bugs others don't know about - so you think you're a pro. That's bullshit. A good gamer can win even without using bugs, a good gamer wins because he is SKILLED. Seems like you are not, that's sad, but I can't change it.


Yes, and another fact is that in many online games the use of bugs/exploits of the game's weaknesses leads to a ban.

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-D1aMoNd_ has written
• Diagnol Bug
• Grenade Bug
Yeah, that's the way those self-proclaimed "pros" talk. The old versions where better because of BUGS? It's like saying "nazi germany was better than the new germany because of the KZs". It's complete bullshit and the worst argument you could use. I think you just say that the old version is better because you are not WINNING in the new version because you can't use bugs to win. You are one of those guys who just wins because he can use bugs others don't know about - so you think you're a pro. That's bullshit. A good gamer can win even without using bugs, a good gamer wins because he is SKILLED. Seems like you are not, that's sad, but I can't change it.


I have to agree that it is sad for one to enjoy playing with bugs, but if you'd read previous posts, you'd know D1aMoNd's issue is not solely about bugs, it's about the fact ping didn't matter as much back then as it does now in Max, and as he lives in Australia that's very unfortunate. I'm pretty sure he would be perfectly fine with Max if this ping issue was adressed (lua compensation is a start!) ;).

• Good aiming and dodging/strafing skills
• Tactical sense and strategical use of maps
• Teamplay-oriented
• Good use of sound
• Good use of radar
• Good attitude
• Competetively-oriented
• Open to new tactics, positions, and ideas
• Does not care about personal score
• Does care about team score
• Searching, if not already in, a professional team/clan
• Actively playing and improving one's abilities
• Willing and able to help beginners in public servers
• Does not hack/cheat or use any illegal stinking tool
• Has alot of knowledge on weapon statistics
• Is very observative about his surroundings
• Knows how to manage his $ money correctly
• Does not reconnect everytime he dies
• Respects other people's gamestyle and gameplay.
• etc
^that is what makes a professional player, or pro for short. not needing "bugs" to win. bugs are malfunctions/errors in the game which need to be fixed, you are not a pro if you need malfunctions in order to win.

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I think you just say that the old version is better because you are not WINNING in the new version


Not winning? If my forum wasn't hacked, you'd see all my 1on1's & war record. I'd post some screen shots, but I don't want to show-off/brag to everyone how good i am.

I've got videos on YouTube, feel free to check em out.

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• Good aiming and dodging/strafing skills
• Tactical sense and strategical use of maps
• Teamplay-oriented
• Good use of sound
• Good use of radar
• Good attitude
• Competetively-oriented
• Open to new tactics, positions, and ideas
• Does not care about personal score
• Does care about team score
• Searching, if not already in, a professional team/clan
• Actively playing and improving one's abilities
• Willing and able to help beginners in public servers
• Does not hack/cheat or use any illegal stinking tool
• Has alot of knowledge on weapon statistics
• Is very observative about his surroundings
• Knows how to manage his $ money correctly
• Does not reconnect everytime he dies
• Respects other people's gamestyle and gameplay.
• etc
^that is what makes a professional player, or pro for short. not needing "bugs" to win. bugs are malfunctions/errors in the game which need to be fixed, you are not a pro if you need malfunctions in order to win.


I don't think so... I do all of this, and I don't consider myself a pro.

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@were50:
well it's not something you need to think about, just have fun and everything turns out right.

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This brings memories cs2d 0104 isnt better :I
Because of all those hackers. When 0108 realsed I didt saw any hackers some.. That means DC didt good jpb and why do people say 0104 is better ! O.o

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Put a ban reason on it.
rcon ban Id/USGN/Ip and reason like kick..
Because i ban allot of ppl but they report me because they don't know why -.-

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I think you just say that the old version is better because you are not WINNING in the new version


Not winning? If my forum wasn't hacked, you'd see all my 1on1's & war record. I'd post some screen shots, but I don't want to show-off/brag to everyone how good i am.

I've got videos on YouTube, feel free to check em out.
Contact the forum provider, the post are not deleted.

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if you don't make money from playing this game, then you're not a "pro" player.

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-D1aMoNd_ has written
• Diagnol Bug
• Grenade Bug
Yeah, that's the way those self-proclaimed "pros" talk. The old versions where better because of BUGS? It's like saying "nazi germany was better than the new germany because of the KZs". It's complete bullshit and the worst argument you could use. I think you just say that the old version is better because you are not WINNING in the new version because you can't use bugs to win. You are one of those guys who just wins because he can use bugs others don't know about - so you think you're a pro. That's bullshit. A good gamer can win even without using bugs, a good gamer wins because he is SKILLED. Seems like you are not, that's sad, but I can't change it.


The diagonal speed bug isn't even a bug. People just call it a bug because it was something that wasn't unintended in the game, so it's pretty much an unintended feature. Everyone has it in this game, you don't have to press a specified button combo to do it. All you do is move diagonally. It's that simple. I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about and everything you just said there is totally off.

So to me? I think we want to add an unintended feature, not a so called bug. I probably should have cleared this up earlier.

The grenade bug is definitely a bug however and I could definitely go without it.

Once again, the grenade bug was only REALLY effective on one map, which was de_cs2d. No one plays it anymore...

the weapon damages are okay I guess...but it makes it so if you have 20 ping and the other guy has 21 ping then the guy with 20 ping autowins.

Also, we aren't "zomgfgiveme0104backplsplsplsplspls," (only Diamond is, but in a more non-childish way) or whatever you think we are doing. And wanting ONE feature does NOT equal wanting everything from the past.
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