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Re: Next December

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30.01.08 02:47:36 pm

bizzl has written

Oh boy, I'm one day without net and you fill 1,5 pages in this thread

I agree with you.. And there's coming strange feeling to me "dont write here not anymore"

Here is so much what should read. And Im not be able to do it.

2. there's write only bizzl, JamppaCK and leegao.

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 02:56:16 pm

JTK has written

2. there's write only bizzl, JamppaCK and leegao.

Hey...you should count yourself and ME!

JamppaCK has written

AK25 has written

JampacK somewhere you state that your mom is the prophet, and u have the powers of god behind you to help you cheat in a card game, you could have just gotten lucky,

If I have done it more that once?

It's a little hard to let them believe it,try harder.

AK25 has written

those "demons" where mythology and other stuff from years and years ago, the demon smoke was a coincedence nothing more there is no invisible world, maybe in your dream but thats it

Ha...Who said that dreams can't be real things? Maybe they're the things you see in that invisible world.

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 03:45:56 pm

bizzl has written

Oh boy, I'm one day without net and you fill 1,5 pages in this thread

That's life.

bizzl has written

"Use BSD or die

What is BSD?

bizzl has written

Look, while there could be an "invisible world" it doesn't mean that there have to be patterns in clouds

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Look, I haven't seen single atoms with my own eyes and yet I know that they are! quote]Have you ever heard of something called "propaganda"?

Same answer for all ot those.
Propaganda would be one reason for those faces. But if you had been watched that video you would undrestand why it can't be propaganda.

Because I think why the heck somebody would like to do almost every smoke puff seems like devil?
You believe that there is atoms in the world and you don't see them. Why you can't believe in Jesus and you don't see it?
I believe in Jesus and also that there is atoms in the world. And I think you believe atoms because it has been explained to you in Chemistry and Chysics.

bizzl has written

since it's completely nuts to let the infantry walk into norway

I know

We can nothing to Russia because they has gun superiority and solider superiority and of course they have more bobms and staff like that.

bizzl has written

it still is dust. sorry for being picky, but there is no smoke after the burning levels collapsed

Okay.

bizzl has written

He's a fanatic

Who??

bizzl has written

that was good imagination + a lucky day.
If you train your memory, you'll even be able to calculate the next cards, at least if you can remember their order before and after shuffling

btw, I got a magic book which also includes several of this tricks, and all of them are either recognision tricks or simple cheating

I haven't ever ever ever played that game before I played it.

So I couldn't even know where is and what is. Of course they are cheats but know one. Human can do anything if it has enough faith for it. So if you truly believe you can walk on the water then you truly can.

bizzl has written

this depends on the cat. a disabled, death or buttered cat possibly won't land on her/his feet

buttered you must be joking.

heheheheheh

Yeah you are right about that.

bizzl has written

oh boy, you actually know what world economy is
Off course, you don'T seem to know that

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Me? yes I knew it.

bizzl has written

please, which 132 countries? Schlaraffia, Wolkenkuckkucksheim and the Backside of the moon?
common, I can at least tell you 3 countries which have no political or military trouble with Israel

How can I know. I didn't figured it out with my self. Ask it Messianic Jewish about that thing.

He propably knows.

bizzl has written

nope, just a stupid rant

Not by me.

bizzl has written

some tip for amateur preachers like you:
never try to convert people via the internet. While it is possible, it also is possible that people will fool you. You just can't check if those who "agree" with you actually do

If I don't tell you about Jesus how then could you know about it?

And I tell Gods word in real life too.

Not just always with the internet.
And I know they are going to fool me because of the Jesus word and becouse they don't care about rescue for their life.

bizzl has written

like I said, the book of revelation is very controversial, and several churches actually ignore it.
I myself don't think it is completely true, either. It's just to weird.

The good thing is when you see these things happening what I have been saying in here you propably undrestand then all this and then you get place on heaven.

God's will is that everybody gets rescue for their soul and gets place in heaven.

And I am going to fill Gods will as much as I can.

bizzl has written

erm, leegao... I myself am christian, too, but also don't belong to any of the normal communities. I have a little bond to the Seventh-Day-Adventists, but it's very losy, especially since the local youth group resolved
I am my own little church, and same can apply to JamppaCK

Nice bizzl

As you undrestand something so it might be possible that you get rescue for your soul in someday.

But what do you mean with this?

bizzl has written

and same can apply to JamppaCK

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JTK has written:
2. there's write only bizzl, JamppaCK and leegao.

Soma Cruz has written:
Hey...you should count yourself and ME!

And of course Flying Lizard and HW

Soma Cruz has written

Ha...Who said that dreams can't be real things? Maybe they're the things you see in that invisible world.

That's right.

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 05:45:35 pm

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

"Use BSD or die

What is BSD?

Learn to use Wikipedia, kiddo

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

Look, while there could be an "invisible world" it doesn't mean that there have to be patterns in clouds

bizzl has written

Look, I haven't seen single atoms with my own eyes and yet I know that they are!

bizzl has written

Have you ever heard of something called "propaganda"?

Same answer for all ot those.
Propaganda would be one reason for those faces. But if you had been watched that video you would undrestand why it can't be propaganda.

*sigh* For the very last time I do believe in god, but still that doesn't make your stupid dust patterns true

JamppaCK has written

I believe in Jesus and also that there is atoms in the world. And I think you believe atoms because it has been explained to you in Chemistry and Chysics.

You're right, I believe that there are atoms because they said so in Chemistry and Physics, but not only because of that

btw, I got christianity explained at school, too, with all pros and cons, just like any other of the big religions

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

since it's completely nuts to let the infantry walk into norway

I know

We can nothing to Russia because they has gun superiority and solider superiority and of course they have more bobms and staff like that.

you know, it seems you don't have an idea what I actually said

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

He's a fanatic

Who??

Osama bin Laden. sry for not killing all of your quote

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

I haven't ever ever ever played that game before I played it.

sure, but you have to believe rather hard to make it happen. Hoping for getting a possibility to cheat doesn't really count as such

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

please, which 132 countries? Schlaraffia, Wolkenkuckkucksheim and the Backside of the moon?
common, I can at least tell you 3 countries which have no political or military trouble with Israel

How can I know. I didn't figured it out with my self. Ask it Messianic Jewish about that thing.

He propably knows.

He'll probably tell me that your stupid because you believe this shit

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

nope, just a stupid rant

Not by me.

didn't said that

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

If I don't tell you about Jesus how then could you know about it?

Let's see:
- I were part in several christian groups
- I had a class called "Ethics" in School. It included information about every religion, from a neutral point though (but that's better anyway)
- I have a couple of different bible variants at home
- I sometimes read them

JamppaCK has written

And I tell Gods word in real life too.

Not just always with the internet.

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bizzl has written

like I said, the book of revelation is very controversial, and several churches actually ignore it.
I myself don't think it is completely true, either. It's just to weird.

The good thing is when you see these things happening what I have been saying in here you propably undrestand then all this and then you get place on heaven.

God's will is that everybody gets rescue for their soul and gets place in heaven.

And I am going to fill Gods will as much as I can.

but only if they're happening, and only then. And, as I said, I don't think they will happen, at least not now

JamppaCK has written

But what do you mean with this?

bizzl has written

and same can apply to JamppaCK

You said you're free of confession, which would be the same state as I am

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 07:35:24 pm

Ah wikipedia

Tells everything

bizzl has written

*sigh* For the very last time I do believe in god, but still that doesn't make your stupid dust patterns true

I undrestand you believe in God and you are not sure about those smoke clouds.
Why somebody would like to make almost every smoke puff seems like the Devil in that video? I think it would be stupid who would do that.

bizzl has written

You're right, I believe that there are atoms because they said so in Chemistry and Physics, but not only because of that
btw, I got christianity explained at school, too, with all pros and cons, just like any other of the big religions

There is no bad things in Christianity.

bizzl has written

you know, it seems you don't have an idea what I actually said

Oh sorry. I wrote it little bit unclearly. So here is the more clear version of my answer.

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I know We can nothing to Russia because they has gun superiority and solider superiority and of course they have more bobms and staff like that.

These two sentenses are two different things.
I know that it is nuts to infantry walk through Finland and Sweden to Norway. And here the second different clause. We just cant nothing to Russia when it attacks because they has gun superiority and soldier superiority and of course they have more bombs and stuff like that.

bizzl has written

sure, but you have to believe rather hard to make it happen. Hoping for getting a possibility to cheat doesn't really count as such

Yes I do believe. And God has given that faith to me.

bizzl has written

He'll probably tell me that your stupid because you believe this shit

It is not shit. You think it is untill you see.

bizzl has written

didn't said that

bizzl said: nope, just a stupid rant.
I said: Not by me.

sorry about unclear message.

bizzl has written

That's nice.

But you don't believe that what you are reading.

By the way what sort of news you see about Finland overthere in other countries?

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 08:25:02 pm

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bizzl has written

*sigh* For the very last time I do believe in god, but still that doesn't make your stupid dust patterns true

you don't have to make it up, there sure where clouds that looked familiar to pictures of a cartoon devil, but that doesn't mean this was intended by someone

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

There is no bad things in Christianity.

Our teacher was thinking otherwise

btw, there are several problems in different streams, and some inconsistencies, not unlike any other religion (including atheism

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JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

you know, it seems you don't have an idea what I actually said

Oh sorry. I wrote it little bit unclearly. So here is the more clear version of my answer.

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I know We can nothing to Russia because they has gun superiority and solider superiority and of course they have more bobms and staff like that.

sure, but please answer straight next time, not implied

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

sure, but you have to believe rather hard to make it happen. Hoping for getting a possibility to cheat doesn't really count as such

Yes I do believe. And God has given that faith to me.

that doesn't make cheating a good behaviour, kiddo

JamppaCK has written

bizzl has written

He'll probably tell me that your stupid because you believe this shit

It is not shit. You think it is untill you see.

Sure Kiddo, we all will see what happens in the future... when it actually is happening. And I don't see that there are 132 countries against israel, even if you count any little micro-nation (like the vatican

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JamppaCK has written

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That's nice.

But you don't believe that what you are reading.

because I'm also a critical and reasoning person. Why should I believe any Tom, Dick or Harry who tells me that the end is near

If you were talking about the bible: I gave you my points about the absolute reliability of this book. This applies especially to the old testament and the last parts of the new testament.
They are pretty stories, some can even be applied to modern society, but not all, especially the predictions are very fuzzy stuff

JamppaCK has written

By the way what sort of news you see about Finland overthere in other countries?

Not much. We hear that you won PISA again, and that a finnish(?) company freaks out our unions and bought a norwegian computer company. Sometimes I also read an interview with worlds most important finn

At all, not very much.

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 11:23:00 pm

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you don't have to make it up, there sure where clouds that looked familiar to pictures of a cartoon devil, but that doesn't mean this was intended by someone

Yea it may does seem intended thing. If you watched them videos you would undrestand this. Why they can't be just accidence.

bizzl has written

Our teacher was thinking otherwise
btw, there are several problems in different streams, and some inconsistencies, not unlike any other religion (including atheism )

And it is caused by your teacher wasn't gave life to Jesus. Also it was not Christian because if it had been, its words would be much difference.

bizzl has written

that doesn't make cheating a good behaviour, kiddo

I know.

But I gave all honor to Jesus by tricks I used before. And I will give in future too if I do something.

But not by me just by God.

bizzl has written

because I'm also a critical and reasoning person. Why should I believe any Tom, Dick or Harry who tells me that the end is near
If you were talking about the bible: I gave you my points about the absolute reliability of this book. This applies especially to the old testament and the last parts of the new testament.
They are pretty stories, some can even be applied to modern society, but not all, especially the predictions are very fuzzy stuff

New testament is pretty clear text. You should read the new testament.

The more you read the more things you see which has been "undercover" to you. And when you see more you will undrestand a level of present time.

bizzl has written

Sure Kiddo, we all will see what happens in the future... when it actually is happening. And I don't see that there are 132 countries against israel, even if you count any little micro-nation (like the vatican )

On country I know who is against Jewis. It is Russia.

bizzl has written

I don't even know what means PISA. I think it is somekind of sport league competetion. Yeah possible it is Finnish and it is abbreviation of some league name.

Do you watch ski jumping sometimes?

What could you mean with this? " I also read an interview with worlds most important finn , At all, not very much" I know these words and what they are, but I don't undrestand the clause you said.

Re: Next December

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30.01.08 11:40:04 pm

oh boy. there is book coming and I have been out of couple of hours

Well, sorry Soma Cruz

but i only count very active ushers

my bad. (because theý write half of book in one comment

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Re: Next December

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30.01.08 11:43:55 pm

bizzl has written

you only had to read the full thread, and not just the last posts (I assumed you actually read everthing, sorry for that cookies )

pfft, I'm too lazy to do that

JamppaCK has written

Same answer for all ot those.
Propaganda would be one reason for those faces. But if you had been watched that video you would undrestand why it can't be propaganda.

And here I was thinking why the heck would Satan bother to put his face in a column of smoke? It makes even less sense than editing a video. Also, Bizzl explained that he does believe in the holy spirit of the Christ.

JamppaCK has written

I haven't ever ever ever played that game before I played it.

Be my guest, go out into the ocean and wade into the deep waters. If you can get that video taped, then Ill believe you, if not, then dont claim it

JamppaCK has written

If I don't tell you about Jesus how then could you know about it?

And I tell Gods word in real life too.

Not just always with the internet.
And I know they are going to fool me because of the Jesus word and becouse they don't care about rescue for their life.

First of all, both bizzl and I are Christians. Yet we use the more doctrinated version rather than the one that you try to preach which consists of heresy. Please, read the Bible and then come back to debate theology, if youre unwilling to do that then dont pretend youre spreading Gods word because you are only putting Jesus to disgrace.

JamppaCK has written

The good thing is when you see these things happening what I have been saying in here you propably undrestand then all this and then you get place on heaven.

God's will is that everybody gets rescue for their soul and gets place in heaven.

And I am going to fill Gods will as much as I can.

If its gods will to get everyone to heaven then there would be no hell.

JamppaCK has written

Nice bizzl

As you undrestand something so it might be possible that you get rescue for your soul in someday.

JamppaCK, refer to my earlier post on moral superiority. What you preach is not the truth. It might be, but its not. Dont pretend that you know more about God then anyone else In the world. If you were to have this discussion with Pope Benedict right now youre religious belief would probably be denounced as heresy.

JamppaCK has written

Ha...Who said that dreams can't be real things? Maybe they're the things you see in that invisible world.

Can you prove that? Or is that right because you believe it is?

In the end, Ill just simplify this whole entire debate for you guys

Were hopelessly offtopic.

JamppaCK, I know this might sound a bit harsh but most people in this forum believe that youre insane and that most of what you say is unchristian-like. Please stop trying to preach your version of religion as none of us really cares. You believe in Magic, most of us here don't. Don't try to sound as if you know everything, it just makes you more arrogant. Now, let's revert this discussion back to its secular origins since all JamppaCK is claiming is that everything he says is true which is an obvious false statement.

as an addon:

JamppaCK has written

On country I know who is against Jewis. It is Russia.

And one country who isn't against Jewis that I know is also Russia. What a coincidence. Please stop posting points if your not going to support it. Why would Russia hate jews? Do you believe the world we live in is completely racially biased? Of course, with you, I wont be surprised if cows can fly.

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Re: Next December

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31.01.08 12:26:04 am

Here comes whole answer for this. !
Damn. I didn't say I know the most about God.
I didn't said this. "Ha...Who said that dreams can't be real things? Maybe they're the things you see in that invisible world. " Or I just don't remember it.
I may sound tight right now.
You said that I should read the bible again?

It should be read many many times and everyone of here should TOO.
I think I know the most of here about Gods word.
This same situation was 2000 years ago. People WHO DIDN'T understand what Jesus told and taught for all. They DIDN'T listen. They DIDN'T care.
And also you DON'T care even know. You just blame me if the bible says against you. If you want some proofs you should read then bible and solve this thing by yourself. I think I read the most of time bible of people in this thread. I read it every night.
Jesus didn't healed people for show and movie so even I don't do it for show or movie. And for last thing.
People WHO didn't listen and care about what Jesus said. These people claimed also what that Jesus is talking about is heresy. And it is same situation now. You claim that bible is heresy. I don't preach you by me, just by God.
And if you read the bible you will see something intrestin in there. Like if you find some spot where you can read about people life and acting and stuff like that of present time. You will see that thing is true. And also was that Jesus did born then. There is already two things which keeps true. So There must to be more things which will be true.

But good night for now.

See you tomorrow guys.

Re: Next December

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31.01.08 03:00:49 am

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING BOUT! THERE IS NO INVISIBLE WORLD! that movie sipderlock or spiderwick chronicles isnt a true story

Re: Next December

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31.01.08 04:34:20 am

JamppaCK has written

I think I know the most of here about Gods word.
This same situation was 2000 years ago. People WHO DIDN'T understand what Jesus told and taught for all. They DIDN'T listen. They DIDN'T care.

First of all, I'm already a Baptist, to make me listen to anything else would be for me to reject the spirit of the holy Christ. Therefore, No, I'm not going to listen to you if your words are heresy. And don't pretend that you are preaching the words of God.

JamppaCK has written

And also you DON'T care even know. You just blame me if the bible says against you. If you want some proofs you should read then bible and solve this thing by yourself. I think I read the most of time bible of people in this thread. I read it every night.

Why, because you obviously can't solve it by yourself?

JamppaCK has written

Jesus didn't healed people for show and movie so even I don't do it for show or movie. And for last thing.
People WHO didn't listen and care about what Jesus said. These people claimed also what that Jesus is talking about is heresy. And it is same situation now. You claim that bible is heresy.

WOW, so many things wrong with that statement. First of all, you are comparing yourself to Jesus Christ, let me make this simple for you. You are not like jesus in any shape or form, so don't claim to be. Second of all, I never claim the bible as heresy, I claim the words you speak as heresy. Your words are not the same of the Bible. The bible actually never mentioned any of what you speak. Mirracles were only done by the grace of God, tricks were thought to be from the power of Devil. What you have done is not a miracle for you have no need of it thus it must have came from the power of the Devil.

JamppaCK has written

I don't preach you by me, just by God.
And if you read the bible you will see something intrestin in there. Like if you find some spot where you can read about people life and acting and stuff like that of present time. You will see that thing is true. And also was that Jesus did born then. There is already two things which keeps true. So There must to be more things which will be true. .

Oke, you're making no sense, we all know that Jesus was reborn and elevated to the heavens in Revelation. Can you please post all the passages from the Bible which supported what you have said? Because I don't remember reading anything that you've said at all while reading through the bible.

JamppaCK, you are not God, nor are you the word of God. What you believe is disgraceful of God. You believe in witchcraft and heresy and yet you call yourself a Christian. You pretend to be the manifestation of Jesus himself yet you even yourself don't know what you are talking about, nor what the bible really says. You claim to have be given divine powers by Jesus yet you know that that power isn't given out in low regards, God knows how you will use it and thus it can not be God who's given you this power, but the devil. You believe in an invisible world in the one that we inhabit when the Bible clearly states that there's only the Heaven, the Earth, and Hell. You believe in all the works of Chris Angels because you think he has powers. GOD DOESN'T GIVE OUT POWERS JUST FOR MAGIC TRICKS.

JamppaCK, can you still not see why your words seem like heresy to us? You claim that you know the bible the best, know God the best, even admited that none of us know as much about God as you. Yet you ask us for proof of things that you said. And I'm telling you, you'll not find it anywhere in the Bible. If you can find it there, then post it here and I'll consider what you've said, but don't pretend to be better than any of us here. You're Not. Nor is there anything divine about the words you speak.

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WHAT ARE YOU TALKING BOUT! THERE IS NO INVISIBLE WORLD! that movie sipderlock or spiderwick chronicles isnt a true story

nobody (or at least me) said this, but since you can't proof whether there is one or not, we can definitly say that there is one or not

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nobody (or at least me) said this, but since you can't proof whether there is one or not, we can definitly say that there is one or not

Agreed, and since it is the burden of JamppaCK to prove this, he can not and thus his argument is not valid. Which is exactly why this topic is really stupid, because we're just basing everything we say off of what JamppaCK believes is right...

Re: Next December

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Now little things for you. That what I said about Russia, and Jesus comes again on the earth, and you will get rescue by gívin life to Jesus and believing in Jesus all of your heart. THAT IS TRUE. IT IS ALSO SAID IN BIBLE. Do you think that you know that is is heresy, and you even don't read the bible often.?? That sounds crazy. You just know and you don't even read the bible, where is this all wise? So where the heck you get that information? Should I claim that you got your information from the devil?? As like you do to me. You think I got my "cheating" power from the Devil. And that is not true. Because this IN THE BIBLE TOO.
If nation fights against nations "like civil war" so that nation will fall down. HOW you think that I get my powers form the Devil and even so I teach word of God?
So absolutely I can't get my powers to cheating from the Devil because it would be so incongrous.
By the way I have been reading almost whole new testament of the bible. And you THINK that I don't know about Jesus.! That's crazy. I think you don't know. Think even how much you read bible. Once in the year?

leegao has written

Why, because you obviously can't solve it by yourself?

Because obviously the answer is in the bible.
And my believing can't rescue you. So you have to read it yourself and then I think there is no incongrous in this Thread.

But untill it there is. Read the new testament and you know as much as I.

There is little differency bewteen I and Cris Angel. First of all Chris has got his powers by Devil. And I am NOT.

Next thing. I ment that invisible world is Hell and Heaven. Because there is these two worlds. Of course there is spirits around the earth because of the these two worlds.

Third thing you didn't know. I know that God knows what I did.

and fourth thing you didn't know. All of the people has incredible powers. Because when God made us he as like almost Gods. We have our position above angels but little bit under the God. We have these incredible powers even you have even I even mickhael Jacksson. (he was a singer untill he died) It is different thing that do we find our inner powers.

There is three sources of these incredible powers.
One: Devil
Two: God
Three: Human himself.

And difference between I and Chris is.

I have got powers by:
2 and 3.

And Cris has
1 and 3.

What I should find in the bible? Things what I have been said? There is that the war is coming. But is is not clear text and hard to understand.

There is no even row a text about Russian's attack to Finland. But I said this before that it is a prophesy that Russian will attack to Finland. And this prophesy is not came to my mum. It has came our knowlegde by the other prophets.

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31.01.08 01:02:25 pm

since this get's more and more to flamming and there is no sence in arguing with someone who doesn't want to DISCUSS i'm clossing this now.

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