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29.06.17 08:21:00 pm
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Marcell
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Something is not going well here. 80C° is a lot even while idle. I could only reach 80C° when playing GTA Online. This is also huge value since I am using a custom cooler. But nowaday Intel sucks at CPU temperatures.
29.06.17 08:32:20 pm
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user Masea has written:
EDIT: One more question dudes, how much time later should I replace my thermal paste again?

If you did apply the thermal paste properly it should last several years. Normally you'd replace the thermal paste only if you suspect huge crazy temperatures on normal usage of your PC which means the thermal grease has lost its thermal property.
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29.06.17 08:33:22 pm
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Yates
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user Marcell has written:
But nowaday Intel sucks at CPU temperatures.

Yeah let's not go down that road. That would be stupid. For you.

@user Masea: Next time you decide to pull everything out.
29.06.17 08:49:39 pm
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Marcell
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Probably you know better as always. I own 7700k and my temps are sucks and not because of me, it simply sucks, many members on Hungarian forum says the same, but you always know everything. Grow up.
29.06.17 09:41:37 pm
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@user Marcell: Implying the general temperatures of all Intel processors has spiked in recent years because they fucked up with the 7700k is ridiculous. I never said they didn't make a mistake. Your whole post reeks of salt which in your case is well placed but you don't have to rant about it and spew out crap generalizing their whole production under one faulty processor lineup.
29.06.17 09:55:30 pm
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@user Masea: Cool man! For really low temperatures replace the paste every 1-2 years. It will dry over 3-5 years and then you would notice a 5-10 degree improvement. It's simple: if your CPU is getting hot, you may want to do it
Did the service guy take a payment?

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@user Marcell: Implying the general temperatures of all Intel processors has spiked in recent years because they fucked up with the 7700k is ridiculous.

The general temperatures of all Intel processors have spiked since Ivy Bridge (3---, 2012) consumer CPUs. Apparently it's cheaper to use toothpaste than soldering. Skylake/Kaby Lake/i9 Series are no different. Top kek for the Intel high-end.
29.06.17 10:06:35 pm
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Did the service guy take a payment?
He did. He actually should anyway. But he did take a lot for the work he did, at least I think like that, so does my father

I was about only to want him to remove that screw. However, when he removed that screw, I also wanted to show him what I displaced, the heatsink. I shouldn't have wanted that Because when he wanted to see that and opened the inside of the notebook, he also wanted to all the job I'd do.

So he's taken over the job, and wanted his money

Let's look from a positive way; I didn't waste any of my thermal paste!

@user Marcell: Don't worry, what happens to you, now happens to me! It all fixed now with help of yours
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29.06.17 10:39:38 pm
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@user Marcell: Implying the general temperatures of all Intel processors has spiked in recent years because they fucked up with the 7700k is ridiculous. I never said they didn't make a mistake. Your whole post reeks of salt which in your case is well placed but you don't have to rant about it and spew out crap generalizing their whole production under one faulty processor lineup.


Yes, this happens with most of new Intel ones as well. They use the same technology on the latest i9 which is ridiculous. Because I have only 4 cores and 4 thread, but i9 will have even more cores which sometimes means more temperatures. The only nice thing with AMD they make their CPUs soldered not like Intel does. But Intel has still more power inside it.
29.06.17 11:32:55 pm
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user VADemon has written:
The general temperatures of all Intel processors have spiked since Ivy Bridge (3---, 2012) consumer CPUs.

Uh, no. The average temps of Ivy were 28 to 35, Kaby Lake is 25 to 33, (35 on the i7). These are idle temps, on load the Kaby Lake is still lower than older gens.

Temps have stayed the around the same but have never spiked, only decreased. By the way the max temp of an Ivy processor was around 70, Kaby's have a max of 100.

@user Marcell: Yes Intel fucked with their new X299 mockup (to be exact they just fucked up with the Kaby Lake X). The Kaby Lake X is something no one should buy, it indeed uses the same technology (in fact a few components are turned off). The rest of the i9 lineup is however very very impressive. It's a shame they start around 1000 Euro's, the highest even ranging to 2000 (excluding the very cheap Kaby Lake X).

The only reason they did this though was to let people who want a new X299 mobo but don't have the money for an expensive CPU right now can go for the Kaby Lake X. It's a shit move, but understandable.
30.06.17 12:46:00 am
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I am okay with my 7700k through. No problems at all, at least not until start up a benchmark xd

CoolerMaster V8 and Thermal Grizzly makes a nice couple.
30.06.17 02:08:41 am
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Kaby Lake is still lower than older gens.

I'm not talking about an improved process node (which is obvious that it reduces the thermal output) but the deliberate degradation of the integrated heat spreader leading to higher temperatures.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ivy-bridge-overclocking-high-temp,15512.html - here, in plain and without jokes.
30.06.17 01:59:07 pm
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Not only ivy bridge but also sandy bridge suffers from sky high temperatures. And things get ten times worse when it comes to notebooks and their shit tier cooling solutions.
30.06.17 02:35:48 pm
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@user VADemon: http://overclocking.guide/the-truth-about-cpu-soldering/

Also, enthusiasts can get a delidding kit (or not, good luck) and can make direct contact with the heat spreader on the cooler, which means lower temps. None enthusiasts will not buy the k versions or never even use the full potential of overclocking, meaning they won't even need to delid.

They're not idiots at Intel, you know.
30.06.17 03:01:47 pm
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Yes, you are right Yates, the only problem with delidding is losing the warranty. I would also do that at the beginning, however I have 3 years of warranty. Plus going to upgrade soon for more cores, so would be useless, because I want to sell this to second hands. Plus not each k processors are great to overclock, like mine. It is 4.2 GHz default, but you can turn on Turbo to 4.5 GHz, however you can still overclock it. Many people could reach even 5GHz with stable system, I was able to reach only 4.5 GHz. At 4.8 GHz with the benchmark went over 100C° and computer simply crashed.
27.07.17 11:55:08 pm
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@user Yates:
∗ Intel i9-7900x die size: ~22x14mm = 308mm² (1000$, 140W TDP)
-> uses solder: No ×, instead Intel's special Thermal Interface Material

∗ AMD Ryzen 1800x die size: ~9x22mm = 198mm² (500$, 95W TDP)
-> uses solder: Yes √
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