English The point of life; suicide as a misdeed or not

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04.01.13 02:10:05 pm
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palomino
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user Shawni has written:
@user Infinite Rain: Torah ? , No
Believe in it ( That its a god book ), but never listen or do what has been said there.

Same can be said about the Bible and the Qu'aran.

@user Shawni: @user KiRa_3: Okay, you two morons, this isn't a thread about God damn religion, it is a philosophical thread. If you can't say anything related to something other than religion- then don't post.
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04.01.13 02:53:12 pm
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@user palomino:
Nope, not in Quran.
Also, You are the moron here.
Because none of us talked about religion, i only corrected his reply.
We die once, do i have to hide to be visible ?
04.01.13 04:48:33 pm
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Well, actually there is lots of thing to do in this universe. You may be bored to see this life, you can suicide. But; since you will die some day, suicide is pointless. No one knows what's beyond death, so, at least; try to enjoy the life itself.
04.01.13 05:15:43 pm
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@user palomino:
Nope, not in Quran.

Don't get me started on this. The Qu'aran was written by a man, not God. Therefore, it is as faulty as all the other holy scriptures.

user Shawni has written:
Also, You are the moron here.
Because none of us talked about religion, i only corrected his reply.

user Shawni has written:
Enjoy ? No.
God create us, to test us.
That is that.

Correcting a reply means talking about religion in this case, can't you just fucking ignore it?

So far only ohaz, Zero, Pupp3t and SG Master Chief posted the stuff completely relevant to the topic, stuff to think about.
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04.01.13 05:39:36 pm
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Ahmad
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It's Qur'an not Qu'aran.
And I have time to post here because I'm watching vids of math lessons.
04.01.13 05:42:03 pm
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user Ahmad has written:
It's Qur'an not Qu'aran.

Actually, Quran, to be completely correct
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04.01.13 05:57:33 pm
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@user palomino:
Nope, not in Quran.

Don't get me started on this. The Qu'aran was written by a man, not God. Therefore, it is as faulty as all the other holy scriptures.

user Shawni has written:
Also, You are the moron here.
Because none of us talked about religion, i only corrected his reply.

user Shawni has written:
Enjoy ? No.
God create us, to test us.
That is that.

Correcting a reply means talking about religion in this case, can't you just fucking ignore it?

So far only ohaz, Zero, Pupp3t and SG Master Chief posted the stuff completely relevant to the topic, stuff to think about.


so if a man writes a religious book its faulty? I disagree.
if the books were made for us then it would be wise to let
one of our own speciman write it.

But first is suicide a sin or misdeed?

We should first look at why people commited suicide. we all know that an individual will not die by suicide unless she/he has both the desire to die by suicide and the ability to do so

We all know in order to live we have to eat and drink this means we are made to stay alive as much as possible.So Commiting Suicide is not only a sin its also a misdeed to your own body.

Now about GOD. IMO there is a CREATOR did you guys know using a game is one of the best example. Imagine God is a game designer and u are meant to play it till the end. Now u can die many times in the game(consider this as sins) however there are continues(consider this as forgiveness) now a game is a small example but in the end u cant compare them. However we all have a free will. This means if there is any kind of GOD, we are probably being tested.

btw its Qur'an
04.01.13 06:14:57 pm
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so if a man writes a religious book its faulty? I disagree.

Men have been lying to get power over the people. The communists in the USSR, for example.
The church is power, for centuries it has been united with the government.
A holy book can't be written by a man. Otherwise, it isn't holy.

user Battousai has written:
btw its Qur'an

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran
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04.01.13 06:55:30 pm
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so if a man writes a religious book its faulty? I disagree.

Men have been lying to get power over the people. The communists in the USSR, for example.
The church is power, for centuries it has been united with the government.
A holy book can't be written by a man. Otherwise, it isn't holy.

user Battousai has written:
btw its Qur'an

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran


Men have been lying but for u to know this there are men who have been telling the truth aswell. the church did have alot of influence back but now like in france and turkey. they seperate religion and the government.

and do u even know what holy is? so a buddha statue cant be holy since it's made by men? i dont think so.

God made the universe and life . the things u do/make or any kind of way to contact god is holy. it's something precious and it has a value. And what true holy is and what not depends on your opinion of religion.

it is Al-Qurʾān. that wiki is only shorthand. So u can read more comfortable.
04.01.13 07:02:27 pm
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and do u even know what holy is? so a buddha statue cant be holy since it's made by men? i dont think so.

The actual image of a Buddha was created by man so no, it's not holy. Plus, if I create a Buddha statue why the hell should it be holy?

Oohhh holy motherfucking statue! Cure me of these idiots.

user Battousai has written:
God made the universe and life.

Proof or shit did not happen.

user Battousai has written:
the things u do/make or any kind of way to contact god is holy. it's something precious and it has a value. And what true holy is and what not depends on your opinion of religion.

Wrong. I do not believe in God therefore nothing in my eyes is holy. It's my opinion and it just outsmarted you. Pray to your petty God and ask him for a brain, will you.
04.01.13 07:05:08 pm
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This turned into a religion war..
04.01.13 07:05:16 pm
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And what true holy is and what not depends on your opinion of religion.

So why doesn't my opinion count, but the opinion of that guy in the robe does? Who gave him that right?
These two are rhetorical questions by the way.

Stop talking about religion. Now. Keep it clean, people.
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04.01.13 07:06:52 pm
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Wrong. I do not believe in God therefore nothing in my eyes is holy. It's my opinion and it just outsmarted you. Pray to your petty God and ask him for a brain, will you.


that's why i said its a matter of opinion try to use your brain before you say something
04.01.13 07:08:06 pm
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that's why i said its a matter of opinion try to use your brain before you say something

user Battousai has written:
And what true holy is and what not depends on your opinion of religion.

Yourself says otherwise.

Do not post if you are not smart enough. Also it's quite useless to go into a discussion with me as I am an arrogant fuck and in most cases am always right :D! - Like now, btw.
04.01.13 07:13:04 pm
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user Battousai has written:
that's why i said its a matter of opinion try to use your brain before you say something

user Battousai has written:
And what true holy is and what not depends on your opinion of religion.

Yourself says otherwise.

Do not post if you are not smart enough.


I did not say otherwise. I just said it's a matter of opinion what you find holy or not. and i also respect all opinion's


back to topic

As i was saying i do think suicide is a misdeed. it's obvious we are meant to live and not to force our own death's
04.01.13 07:15:24 pm
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user Battousai has written:
I did not say otherwise. I just said it's a matter of opinion what you find holy or not. and i also respect all opinion's

You said, and I quote; "And what true holy is and what not depends on your opinion of religion."

This here seems more like you are saying some gibberish about being true holy and that it does not depend on your opinion of religion. Marking me right and you terribly wrong for both saying such a thing and the English being terrible.

Thank you, and have a good day. I'm out.
04.01.13 11:32:08 pm
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A human being without a serious mental desease will never suicide without a "good" reason. There is always a depression, mobbing, or anything else which turns life into pain.

Life is a gift, but the gifted part ends after birth. What you actually do with that gift depends on everybody's own decisions. If you decide to commit suicide, it is your decision and it is not about the others to judge about that. They should rather ask themselves what they did (or not did) to let that person's life situation turn so bad that it ended with suicide.

So no, suicide is no misdeed. The misdeeds were already done before.
05.01.13 12:37:35 am
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@user Apfelbrot: But sometimes it's just someone being himself, right? It's not always the people who are guilty in one's suicide. But yeah, I get your point.
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05.01.13 01:33:46 pm
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@user Shawni: @user KiRa_3: Okay, you two morons, this isn't a thread about God damn religion, it is a philosophical thread. If you can't say anything related to something other than religion- then don't post.


This whole thread is almost related to the religion, remember what you said @user palomino: ?

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user Shawni has written:
Suicide isn't a sin; it is a way of preventing yourself from commiting more sins.


Sin is related to religion.
05.01.13 01:54:12 pm
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@user KiRa_3I just posted that as one of my thoughts, and proved that religion can't be used as an argument here.
While after that I've said at least five times not to bring religion here, you fucking retard!
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