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Xaeveax
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That "nonsense" happens to make my life meaningful. and what the fuck kind of argument is this:

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And god is fake, if I think so. You're officially outsmarted.


That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. God is fake because you think so? So if you think that my feet are purple, does that make it true? If you think that the ocean is made of peanut butter does it make it true? You, my friend, are the failure.

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Yeah, religious people are completely weak minded and brainwashed, Albert Einstein and Louis Pasteur are excellent examples of this.

Albert Einstein? THE Albert Einstein? The Albert who created the theories of relativity? Who helped create the world's most hellish weapon, the atomic bomb? Him, weak-minded? Pshh, I think not.
As for the biting words, "God is fake", prove me wrong. Show me your scientific proof. Because science will lead us to death. Religion may brainwash us, but at least it doesn't kill us like it did my grandmother.
And this is an invalid argument with you, then I say that you don't have a heart.
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That "nonsense" happens to make my life meaningful. and what the fuck kind of argument is this:

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And god is fake, if I think so. You're officially outsmarted.


That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. God is fake because you think so? So if you think that my feet are purple, does that make it true? If you think that the ocean is made of peanut butter does it make it true? You, my friend, are the failure.
No, just specifically god, not anything else. You're just misleading things on purpose though, just to cause confusion. I think I said it quite simple, you deny it due to that your belief in "God" is so strong whilst you, yourself is weak. And things that should be obvious to people, aren't that obvious I guess. Albert Einstein is dead anyways, and God isn't real. Why would I need to be more obvious? it wasn't Albert Einstein's idea to create a atomic bomb was it? it was some crazy mad man not Albert.
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If you ask me, the world would be better off without the "scientific advancements". We are just killing senselessly now just because we have the technology to do it. Albert Einstein did more harm than help...

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No, just specifically god, not anything else. You're just misleading things on purpose though, just to cause confusion. I think I said it quite simple, you deny it due to that your belief in "God" is so strong whilst you, yourself is weak.


You know what? I am weak. I give in when I shouldn't. I've had my fair share of addictions and lack of control, and thats why I know that I NEED God to get me through the pain. I don't care if you think it is stupid. I don't care if you think I'm brainwashed. In the fucked up state of the world right now, I take the term "brainwashed" as a compliment.

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Albert Einstein? THE Albert Einstein? The Albert who created the theories of relativity? Who helped create the world's most hellish weapon, the atomic bomb? Him, weak-minded? Pshh, I think not.

Sarcasm, my friend, of course I wasn't serious. Anyways you can't blame him for the creation of the atomic bomb, it's like blaming Jesus for the Crusades.

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It just happens to be like that with religious people, they can't take discussions very well with atheists, same way the other way around also to be indirect. I know that for a fact, I don't care either though, so we're on the same level. It's just that weak minded people give up easily, I wouldn't give up even if a gun was pointed to my head and the shooter was about to shoot. I'm just that dead serious.

I admire the religious people though for having all these crazy lectures they're sometimes interesting but it's all confusion in the end. It has no real content you can really live of on, it's hard to realise that but I've realised that. You can get hope even if you had no religion, to some religious people that's a very unlikely thought I assume, but it's true, and I know that for a fact I'm been a atheist all my life, well, I started being atheist at around age 11 I guess, and I've gone through pain too it's not that impossible though to see through that God and tell what it's really about.

I can relate to cigarettes... either you smoke or you don't. We all know smoking is bad, I was smoking once aswell but that was when I was stupid, I realised the bad sides of it. Costs money, makes you addicted, makes you smell bad lol, hehe. Same things can be of resemblance in religion. It costs money (by donations, if you're that kind of believer), makes you brainwashed(addicted to, can't stop believing in it), and you'll smell bad to atheists, lol. But of course religious people don't see through their own religion.

My conclusion: evolution theory > creationism.

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It's all a series of beliefs.

If you can't respect someone else's beliefs, please leave this forum, and the internet, go live in a warehouse somewhere far, far away from any form of civilization.

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Yea likewise, it's our own liability that causes things to go where they go. I have just had enough of all nonsense I'm sorry, I am allowed to voice my opinion. I can respect your religion but it's just that I have my opinion on it, and you religious people can't accept it therefor it goes to where it goes.

I'm sorry for the epicness caused in this topic, I know all religious people dislike my way of thinking but that's alright, I dislike their thinking too, but of course I can respect their way of thinking to a certain extent. If I can't live up to your way of thinking then I'm sorry I just can't agree with you, nor can you brainwash me into thinking the same way you do. I just hope that religions will die out someday, and that's that.
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heh, Freedom of Speech right?
Well, that and freedom of expression and all other human rights. They're quite awesome. Some people should read them.

As said we don't have to agree with ones idealogies, but we should respect people voicing their opinions about it. If I dislike something, it's my opinion. Accept it.
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kimkat, swap the words atheism and religion/god in your posts and that's exactly what i feel. lol

"freedom of XX" is term used by governments to brainwash people and make them think how awesome their government it. actually every government practices censorship to some extent.

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I just don't "find myself" in these religious belief systems, yes there is some, but not alot due to their massive inpopularity I guess. It just doesn't make sense to believe in something that doesn't really exist, it's just a waste of your time. Religions are built like that they're altered as generations move on, so what is written in the Bible now will quite possibly be changed at around year 2300, if mankind manages to live that long, it would just be modified as years pass by, but honestly religious people are sometimes unaware of this, or they just don't care, they believe in whatever they hear without further conclusions and just believe in anything they see is written inside of the Bible, Koran. I also know that there is good brainwashing and bad brainwashing and I'm pretty sure I know the difference between the two.

Also, by brainwash I mean any educational activity that makes you believe in it. There is both good and bad types of brainwash in my opinion. And I've categorized religion to be, the bad brainwash since it doesn't really help people. It's just there to give religious people the illusion that it really helps them, even praying doesn't help people. It's all a illusion, it's a "belief thing" and sure you can believe in it whatever, like, but personally I think it's a big hoax. That's it, I'm done here.
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my beliefs
1. God created everything + himself.
2. science, by definition, is approximation. therefore, all scientific models (including our current view of evolution) are incomplete and will eventually be superceded by more complete, yet still incomplete, models.

CoolioG has written
Even if you don't believe in beliefs, you have a belief that beliefs are fictional

this = win

there is no contradiction; there is nothing worth arguing.

perhaps God drove the process of evolution and at one point, caused the evolution of "homo sapiens" and gave this species special qualities which set it apart from everything else.

perhaps all the other animals were happily evolving and then God literally made humans as something very similar to animals,

legit post here.
I think we could go on forever about how religion is so bad because how the "MUSLIM PEOPLE STONE PEOPLE" and how the punctuated equillibrium "IS SO GAY COZ ANIMALS CONT EVOLVE DAT FAST LOL"
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