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united
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Cooliog just stop posting if you aren't posting anything possitive.
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The community is still growing!

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Listen, Roni.

UnrealSoftware provides a number of things that this forum does not. I'll just listen them for you, since, it appears, I have too.
• Integrates with CS2D to provide a in-game friends features.
• Has a file archive which there are, seriously, hundreds of files in.
• Is the developer's site and provides up-to-date news on the workings of UnrealSoftware and CS2D.

Despite what you think, UnrealSoftware does have a thread where you can post your clan and/or communities' information. Sure, it's only a single thread, but it's better than having a entire site that's just a website showcase, at the most.

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there are many cs2d players which dotn want to be active on unrealsoftware.de for some reason. also most of the community users will be adanved players or players who are in cs2d for LONG LONG time.

Yes, also, keep in mind that many un-experienced players don't even know about the forum or may not speak English or German, therefor, they don't participate on this forum.

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did you ever see here on urnealsoftware a score screenshot thread?


You could be active on this forum and create a thread about that (And, if you search, there have already been ones created. This makes your entire argument invalid.)

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this community site is more about the gaming the tournaments etc


Then, it's more of a clan then anything. As you can see, "communities" here participate in multiple games while "clans" only participate in a single game. That's just been the stereotype in the CS2D community.

If anything, this will just make the site a giant, shitty hub for showcasing websites and bragging about some illegitimate "headshot" that you made on some idiot's server.

Roni, your argument was illegitimate, at the most.

I will NOT be joining this.

Also, united, until you become an administrator or moderator on this site, you have no authority over what I posted. And, he shouldn't of posted about his site if he didn't want feedback or criticism. So, think before you post.

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@anyone (more like everyone) who disagrees with cooliog's opinions: please just ignore him. don't get this thread locked for flame.

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Ignore my opinion? He shouldn't have made this thread if he didn't want opinions.

So, why don't you, or any one of you, challenge my opinions instead of ignoring them. Oh, wait. That's right. I'm making logical points.

Why do we need a second, un-needed UnrealSoftware site?
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What you are saying here is completely senseless. It has been said multiple times that CS2DWorld isn't meant to be a second UnrealSoftware.

And why can't there be a community for a single game? Which rule says that communities always involve multiple games?

Your arguments simply don't make sense. Stop thinking they do.

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@CoolioG: Counter-Strike for example, has, apart from the official website, sub-communities and fan-websites too. This is a positive thing, it's a contribution to a game, and frankly it seems all games about now have websites dedicated to them, created by others.

You have informed us about your opinion, so have others, but atleast they don't keep repeating the same things over and over again in a desperate attempt to dismantle the website or lock this thread (that's how your coming off as).

us will remain the official/developer's website, containing all his games, information, a file archive, and a forum afcourse, but it doesn't seem to attract the more professional/old-timers/competetive CS2D gamers, while CS2DWorld does. You should stop worrying about other communities dedicated to CS2D, often having more of the professional/competetive players in its base, while UnrealSoftware's CS2D community has more custom-content-makers such as mappers, skinners, etc. Both are great, and it adds diversity, please enlighten us about why you think diversity is a bad idea.

Besides, DC's games are free, he works on them for a hobby. I'm pretty sure he would like to have fan-based websites and other communities, as an appreciation of his work. This is mostly not the case with game companies and corporations as they charge money for their games.

@Torque: Thanks for the website, I'll look into it.
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@CoolioG: I understand your position on this issue and why you are so hesitant on joining this community; and while I can see the merit in your arguments, I need to clarify a few things that you emphasized in your contention against third party communities that are just a little misleading if not fallacious.

1.) The existence of both a third party community site and the official UnrealSoftware forum are not mutually exclusive with each other. As DC retains full sovereign control over the official forum, fan sites such as CS2D.nl are auxiliary. To that end, these sites can be quite beneficial to the community at large by providing services that the main community cannot provide. In other words, it's completely okay to regularly visit both this and the CS2DWorld community.

2.) The CS2D forum on UnrealSoftware is not a major news hub for the CS2D world. In fact, most newsworthy threads independent of us are in violation of the forum rules. To illustrate this, I will offer my own experience as witness.

During the period when I was the co-leader of a major gaming clan, I was rigorously involved in the CS2D politics and the day to day game community in order to effectively manage the clan. Once I left the competitive side of CS2D, I became alienated from the player-oriented side of CS2D even while constantly supervising the flow of information into the us forum. How is this possible?

The content structure of the US forum is strictly enforced in order to maintain an archive fashioned knowledge database. The organization of the information easily yields information on clans, programming, mods, and etc. However, the structural constraint of this forum model limits the ability for players of the game to share day-to-day news. Threads concerning things such as matches, tactics, and budding players in CS2D are trivialized and or removed because such information are nonessential when our main priorities are to answer questions about the game. In this context, it makes sense that the contents of the threads here are carefully restricted in order to prevent the forum from becoming bloated with what ultimately ends up as spam.

This however gives rise to the question of whether there is merit in a player-oriented community.

3.) While you may feel that communities such as CS2DWorld are nothing more than places to showcase your latest headshots, others may feel otherwise. For one thing, it displaces the strain of disorganization on the official UnrealSoftware forum by acting as a surrogate community to siphon all of the topics deemed unwanted by the US community. Furthermore, a player-centric community allows for more individuality in its members as the entire purpose of the website is to allow players to express their love for the game. To that end, I believe that fan communities such as CS2DWorld are essential.

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The website is just repetitive, at the least.

And, sorry if I sound as if i'm trying to close this site down forever. It's just, to me, completely un-necessary seeing as we already have the UnrealSoftware.

If anything, I hope the creation of this site causes DC to expand the capabilities of the UnrealSoftware forum.

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@anyone (more like everyone) who disagrees with cooliog's opinions: please just ignore him. don't get this thread locked for flame.

seriously just ignore him. as you can tell from his previous post, he has not read any of the responses... he's just rewording his previous post.

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Removed the picture b/c it's too big /Lee

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Stop ignoring what he says. It's his opinion, and he IS allowed to post it here. A forum without critism would be a censored forum. But this forum should be open for both negative AND positive answers. So stop posting your ignore pictures here. CoolioG is here for a longer time than you are. You can't tell he's a newbie at unrealsoftware. So please stop this anti-social behaviour or I have to close this thread. And that would neither help you, nor us.

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Since CS2DWorld only exists since a few weeks ago, you can't really compare the amount of content of the two site. (Unrealsoftware has been around for more than 7 years)

CS2DWorld does great stuff. Some of it is very similar to unrealsoftware, some of it is absolutely not covered on unrealsoftware.
so you should really give it a try: CS2DWorld

ot: He is allowed to post his opinion. However he is not allowed to repeat his opinion over and over again, as this is spam.

Moreover, he is the one ignoring the arguments of posters such as NoD or Lee and many more.

(That's just the typical behavior of a troll.)

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Thank you.

And, if any of you actually read my posts, you would see that I did rebuttal against your arguments.

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I pretty much like this website and registered there.
Currently posting actively.

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Actually I think this discussion is very helpful to understand what CS2DWorld really is about. Other people can formulate it much better than myself. However I do think that this is probably enough of the discussion, so if I have any rights as all as the topicstarter I'd like to request people to let people get a chance to post their opinions now without engaging them in a discussion again.

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Stop ignoring what he says. It's his opinion, and he IS allowed to post it here. A forum without critism would be a censored forum. But this forum should be open for both negative AND positive answers. So stop posting your ignore pictures here. CoolioG is here for a longer time than you are. You can't tell he's a newbie at unrealsoftware. So please stop this anti-social behaviour or I have to close this thread. And that would neither help you, nor us.


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ot: He is allowed to post his opinion. However he is not allowed to repeat his opinion over and over again, as this is spam.

Moreover, he is the one ignoring the arguments of posters such as NoD or Lee and many more.

(That's just the typical behavior of a troll.)

well said. that basically captures everything i would like to say
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@cooliog: those quotes contradict each other due to the fact that i wanted to show why you're not contributing anything to this discussing while TheKilledDeath wants us to respect your opinion.
which is rather hard considering that it seems that all you're trying to do is put CS2DWorld in a bad light.

and ONCE AGAIN you're doing is heating up a discussion which is about how useless CS2DWorld is.

so let's try to be a bit less counter-productive:

We could already achieve some nice stats. Within just 10 days over 300 posts were posted in over 50 threads. We usually have more than 100 visits per day!
And there is much more to come on CS2DWorld

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Ugh, the creator of this thread said to stop this discussion and asked politely.

Yet, all of you want to carry it on. Now, that, put CS2Dworld in a bad light.

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Awww you still talking about CS2DWorld ... why you just not use UnrealSoftware ?? ....
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